[Crimson Dynamo]

i bring solutions, sometimes they are unpalatable, which is slightly ironic

You dont make a large omelette without breaking eggs I am afraid

[Amy Jade]

You do know some eat as a comfort mechanism? That's what I did. I would get bullied in school, spat at, hair pulled etc and go home and eat out of comfort because I was ashamed to tell my mum.

If I had been publicly shamed as a 14 to 15 year old and stopped and told on the street I was overweight do you think that would actually help me?

[Eddie.]

I object to not only this, but overweight people getting criticized and humilated in general, it could lower the person's self esteem and stuff, which is really dangerous...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Eddie.

I object to not only this, but overweight people getting criticized and humilated in general, it could lower the person's self esteem and stuff, which is really dangerous...

what part of the article refers to "overweight people"?

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

From personal experience, the weight of things like a wheelchair are already taken into consideration and placed into the hold separately.

So you have to leave your wheelchair and be seated, I had no idea.

[UserSince2005]

Having sat next to a fatty on a plane I think it is the right thing for them to be made to buy and extra seat. Why should I suffer a foul experience when I’m athelitically built and beautiful

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I thought alcohol was banned on most airlines?

You had to buy your alcohol from onboard the flight and they had a limit on how many you can purchase to prevent a drunken mess. Unless someone gets pissed from one miniature.

there is no ban on what you can take on board duty free, and may people make use of minatures

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

So you have to leave your wheelchair and be seated, I had no idea.

Obviously, you can't sit in a wheelchair on the plane?

They use a lift to wheel you on board in your chair, have assistants to help you into the front row which is usually adapted for disabled passengers and then store their chair in the hold.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well, they've coped fine for the last however many years.

Unless someone is grossly overweight, it's unlikely to make much of a difference.

It would make a difference to me if my moving/stretching space was limited in an already cramped space due to an obese person encroaching into my space, especially on a long haul flight.

Flights are not cheap, stretching room is crucial for not only comfort but to prevent things like DVTs. I want to be able to ‘breath’ on a long flight.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

there is no ban on what you can take on board duty free, and may people make use of minatures

I didn't mean outright banned. I said limits on how much you can take on board as there are limits to any liquids and creams etc.

I assumed, too, there was a rule about consuming alcohol onboard which had to be purchased from the air hostess who acts as a barmaid and can stop serving you at an appropriate time so you are not intoxicated onboard. But it seems that is US rules.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It would make a difference to me if my moving/stretching space was limited in an already cramped space due to an obese person encroaching into my space, especially on a long haul flight.

Flights are not cheap, stretching room is crucial for not only comfort but to prevent things like DVTs. I want to be able to ‘breath’ on a long flight.

Did you actually read what I wrote?

Here it is again, I'll bolden it for you.... "Unless you are grossly overweight, it's unlikely to make much of a difference".

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/co...on-on-a-plane/

[Marsh.]

Wow, he needs his own aircraft.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I didn't mean outright banned. I said limits on how much you can take on board as there are limits to any liquids and creams etc.

I assumed, too, there was a rule about consuming alcohol onboard which had to be purchased from the air hostess who acts as a barmaid and can stop serving you at an appropriate time so you are not intoxicated onboard. But it seems that is US rules.

there is no limit to what you can take on board, as you can buy what you like once you get through security

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well I imagine they would have something to say if you started knocking back litre bottles of vodka like the alcoholic you are.

well it is illegal to get drunk on the plane but you are allowed to take your own bottles on board from duty free

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

there is no limit to what you can take on board, as you can buy what you like once you get through security

Here for you getting stopped trying to lug 5 bags packed with vodka.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

well it is illegal to get drunk on the plane but you are allowed to take your own bottles on board from duty free

Yes, but there are clearly rules on consumption.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/co...on-on-a-plane/

My god he’s Hugh. I don’t think some should be expected to sit next to someone that big on a long haul flight, it isn’t fair on them. There should be a few bariatric seats.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Obviously, you can't sit in a wheelchair on the plane?

They use a lift to wheel you on board in your chair, have assistants to help you into the front row which is usually adapted for disabled passengers and then store their chair in the hold.

Very interesting.
Believe it or not I have never flown in my life.
Ocean going liners were the in thing back in the day.

[Kizzy]

Well not weighed but if they take up so much room it renders the seat next to them unusable then they should have to pay a surcharge perhaps?

[smudgie]

Middle aisle could have bigger seats, and if you want/need one then pay a surcharge. If you are big enough to fill a seat and a half it would make sense.
Same should be available for taller people that require more leg room.
A case of one size doesn't fit all.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Very interesting.
Believe it or not I have never flown in my life.
Ocean going liners were the in thing back in the day.

Get on that plane to Amsterdam, you'll love it.

[Vicky.]

I don't really understand the argument for this weighing tbh. And IF it was about safety, then it would be compulsory not optional anyway surely, and would not be a relatively new concept.

That said, I have no issue with extremely overweight people being charged for more than one seat if thats the amount of space they take up. A provision could maybe be made where if the person can prove that they are that size because of a medical problem, they the extra fee is waived. This would cover medical problems which actually result in obesity, along with obesity caused largely by lack of ability to exercise because of another illness.

I don't get the argument for charging heavier people more as heavier luggage is more. As basically...people are not luggage. And people can sometimes weigh a lot more than others without actually taking up that much space. I don't think people should be charged by weight, as luggage is (would we give anorexics half price tickets as they weigh less than an average person?). But I do think if someone takes up more than one seat, they should be charged for it if there is not a medical reason for this.

I may be biased on this as I am someone who is actually really heavy for my height, but not especially large. So I would maybe be charged more based on weight, where I can fit easily into an airline seat and have room to spare, so do not impose on those who sit next to me.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't really understand the argument for this weighing tbh. And IF it was about safety, then it would be compulsory not optional anyway surely, and would not be a relatively new concept.

That said, I have no issue with extremely overweight people being charged for more than one seat if thats the amount of space they take up. A provision could maybe be made where if the person can prove that they are that size because of a medical problem, they the extra fee is waived. This would cover medical problems which actually result in obesity, along with obesity caused largely by lack of ability to exercise because of another illness.

I don't get the argument for charging heavier people more as heavier luggage is more. As basically...people are not luggage. And people can sometimes weigh a lot more than others without actually taking up that much space. I don't think people should be charged by weight, as luggage is (would we give anorexics half price tickets as they weigh less than an average person?). But I do think if someone takes up more than one seat, they should be charged for it if there is not a medical reason for this.

I may be biased on this as I am someone who is actually really heavy for my height, but not especially large. So I would maybe be charged more based on weight, where I can fit easily into an airline seat and have room to spare, so do not impose on those who sit next to me.

I think anyone taking up most of the aisle as well is a health and safety issue. What if there is an emergency and people need to leave their seats quickly and need to access the aisle.

[DemolitionRed]

Some people get off on being nasty. I ignore it mostly because its nearly always an online thing.