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Will. · 05-11-2017, 07:06 PM

Omg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41880511

lewis111 · 05-11-2017, 07:06 PM

The attack happened at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs in Wilson County.
Local ABC affiliate KSAT 12 reported the gunman entered the church at around 11:30 local time and began shooting.
Police told the outlet there were "multiple victims" and the gunman had been killed in the aftermath. The number of casualties is not yet clear.
Photos and video from the scene showed the area taped off by local law enforcement.

Jake. · 05-11-2017, 07:07 PM

wtf is going on atm

UserSince2005 · 05-11-2017, 07:07 PM

this has muslim militants written all over it.

lewis111 · 05-11-2017, 07:08 PM

I'm assuming it's too soon to talk about gun control

(It's too late btw)

Marsh. · 05-11-2017, 07:36 PM

But they need the guns to protect themselves. They deserve that right.

Imagine the death toll if they were actually under strict controls?

The statistics in our country are out of control because we don't have guns to protect ourselves from the criminals.

Right?

UserSince2005 · 05-11-2017, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh.

But they need the guns to protect themselves. They deserve that right.

Imagine the death toll if they were actually under strict controls?

The statistics in our country are out of control because we don't have guns to protect ourselves from the criminals.

Right?

to be fair id rather be shot in the head in and die instantly in texas.

than die from a butual london stabbing

Amy Jade · 05-11-2017, 07:40 PM

Oh no

Hate hearing stuff like this

RileyH · 05-11-2017, 07:48 PM

RIP </3

Oliver_W · 05-11-2017, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

to be fair id rather be shot in the head in and die instantly in texas.

than die from a butual london stabbing

Apparently a gun attack and a knife attack have the same fatality rates, i.e. if someone attacked you with a knife, you'd be just as likely to die if you were attacked with a gun. While you can't exactly attack an entire church with a knife, I'd rather live in a country where I can legally defend myself.

Marsh. · 05-11-2017, 07:54 PM

You wouldn't quite need such extreme measures of defence in a country that actually controls itself.

RichardG · 05-11-2017, 07:55 PM

just another day in america

Smithy · 05-11-2017, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Apparently a gun attack and a knife attack have the same fatality rates, i.e. if someone attacked you with a knife, you'd be just as likely to die if you were attacked with a gun. While you can't exactly attack an entire church with a knife, I'd rather live in a country where I can legally defend myself.

Like these 27 people defended themselves...

Marsh. · 05-11-2017, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Apparently a gun attack and a knife attack have the same fatality rates, i.e. if someone attacked you with a knife, you'd be just as likely to die if you were attacked with a gun. While you can't exactly attack an entire church with a knife, I'd rather live in a country where I can legally defend myself.

That's it. The death toll would be much lower if he was waving a knife around.

lewis111 · 05-11-2017, 07:57 PM

If someone walked into a church in Texas with a knife, I very very very highly doubt they would manage to kill even like 8 people - and that's pushing it a lot

RichardG · 05-11-2017, 08:16 PM

i am sympathetic to the victims and their families. but honestly, why is this even a story? if america refuses to acknowledge that their gun laws are utterly moronic then so be it. the frequency of these atrocities can be reduced, these incidents can be prevented. but they choose not to do anything about it. so let's not bore the rest of the world with the same repetitive arguments. let them deal with this mess themselves.