[LukeB]

Both Charlie and Ashley were deserving winners.

[Niamh.]

Get off the fence Luke

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

what do you mean how accurate is the vote, it's the vote that send people home or saves them, of course it's accurate.

Ashley was lovely and deserved to win

Yes but on the grand final !! Clearly Charlie had a bigger fanbase that's the point I'm making!!! . It's okay people voting for Ashley in previous weeks but if they don't vote as much in the final then that's on them .

Just like when biggings was in the final with Janice Dickinson and more people liked biggings hence him Winning so just accept more people wanted Charlie to win .

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Get off the fence Luke

I’m not

Both are legends,great camp mates and it was the best final 2 from the show.

[Crimson Dynamo]

fave was Carol Thatcher

least was that dreadful one from All Saints and Lady C

vile

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yes but on the grand final !! Clearly Charlie had a bigger fanbase that's the point I'm making!!! . It's okay people voting for Ashley in previous weeks but if they don't vote as much in the final then that's on them .

Just like when biggings was in the final with Janice Dickinson and more people liked biggings hence him Winning so just accept more people wanted Charlie to win .

I preferred Biggins that year anyway

The point is, there was a noticeable push for Charlie at the end, even bringing her daughter on the show and all the sob story crap that Ashley didn't have, people fall for that s**t all the time. I still believe Ashley would have took it if it weren't for that and you sir will never change my mind

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Odd choice isn't he ?

Kinda, but he's always been great value on shows like The Last Leg, I was looking on Twitter yesterday and so many TV Producers and stuff were congratulating the talent booker on casting him, so I think it's widely suggested that good things are expected from that casting.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I preferred Biggins that year anyway

The point is, there was a noticeable push for Charlie at the end, even bringing her daughter on the show and all the sob story crap that Ashley didn't have, people fall for that s**t all the time. I still believe Ashley would have took it if it weren't for that and you sir will never change my mind

"You sir will never change my mind" ?? You nutter I'm not a sir but whatever , it's not fair to pick on Charlie when everyone has family sob stories on these shows . It's not Charlie's fault her daughter was used to pull at her own heart strings ie the task with the mystery doors and she DIDN'T pick the right door and missed the chance to see her daughter .

I think only David Haye & Rosemary the chef picked the right door which had their families & friends , so obviously that's going to make Charlie kick herself that she didn't pick the right door, just like anyone missing their loved ones .

And some people have a stronger bond and relationship with their loved ones than others .

I've noticed some celebrities only have a friend supporting them /physically traveling to Australia so they can't exactly get sympathy for just a best mate if you understand . I bet if Ashley blabbered on about a daughter you'd still support her so I think it's double standards .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

"You sir will never change my mind" ?? You nutter I'm not a sir but whatever , it's not fair to pick on Charlie when everyone has family sob stories on these shows . It's not Charlie's fault her daughter was used to pull at her own heart strings ie the task with the mystery doors and she DIDN'T pick the right door and missed the chance to see her daughter .

I think only David Haye & Rosemary the chef picked the right door which had their families & friends , so obviously that's going to make Charlie kick herself that she didn't pick the right door, just like anyone missing their loved ones .

And some people have a stronger bond and relationship with their loved ones than others .

I've noticed some celebrities only have a friend supporting them /physically traveling to Australia so they can't exactly get sympathy for just a best mate if you understand . I bet if Ashley blabbered on about a daughter you'd still support her so I think it's double standards .

Are you actually accusing me of having double standards based on a hypothetical situation that you just made up? Don't be silly .........Madam

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Are you actually accusing me of having double standards based on a hypothetical situation that you just made up? Don't be silly .........Madam

You're clearly a fan of pussycat doll , therefore you'd probably let her get away with it . Maybe I'm wrong who knows but I just know certain celebrities get a PASS no matter what they do .

[Jack_]

Well we agree on one thing, Charlie Brooks is the worst IAC winner of all time. This show seems to have had 'eras' of winners of late, idk which I hate more - the 'dull era' (2011-2014) which was honestly hideous and a massive waste of my time, or the 'predictable era' (2015-2016) where it feels like you may as well not even bother watching

Anyway, best campmates of all time in no particular order are: David Van Day, Lady C, Janice Dickinson, Helen Flanagan, Gillian McKeith, Martin Roberts, Gemma Collins, Matthew Wright and Pat Sharp

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You're clearly a fan of pussycat doll , therefore you'd probably let her get away with it . Maybe I'm wrong who knows but I just know certain celebrities get a PASS no matter what they do .

I'm not a fan of the Pussycat Dolls at all, to assume makes an ass out of u and me I didn't even know who Ashley was before she went in

[Ross.]

Don’t come for the best winner of all time Charlie!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ross.

Don’t come for the best winner of all time Charlie!

Get back in your box Ross

[Ross.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm not a fan of the Pussycat Dolls at all, to assume makes an ass out of u and me I didn't even know who Ashley was before she went in

Let Nicole Scherzinger and friends into your playlist

[Ross.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Get back in your box Ross

She is though and to suggest otherwise is simply wrong

I loved Ashley too tho

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Ross.

Don’t come for the best winner of all time Charlie!

If people think Charlie is the worst "winner" alteast she's famous for a proper celebrity career , unlike Vicky miss gobby Geordie shore, and Scarlett big mouth goggle box

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ross.

Let Nicole Scherzinger and friends into your playlist

Ugh Nicole annoys me so much

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ross.

She is though and to suggest otherwise is simply wrong

I loved Ashley too tho

I only heard the second part of your post

[Daniel.]

My Favourite is Lady Colin Campbell, easily one of the funniest people I have seen on TV.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I only heard the second part of your post

Do you also support irritating people like Scarlett Moffat & Vicky Patterson who are only famous for reality Tv ! Bet you liked those winners .

[Jack_]

Ah Lady C was pure gold, it's amazing how quickly things can change in a year, 2015 was one of the best series in a very, very long time while last year's may be in contention for the worst ever if it weren't for Martin nothing would've happened

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Do you also support irritating people like Scarlett Moffat & Vicky Patterson who are only famous for reality Tv ! Bet you liked those winners .

My goodness aren't you very hostile

I don't see what relevance how famous a person is has to whether they should be liked as a camp mate or deserve to win though? It's all about personality and how they behave in their imo

[Ross.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I only heard the second part of your post

Me after winning IAC and beating Niamh

[Jack_]

who actually cares what they do for a career, all I'm interested in is if they make good TV or better yet actually turn up to their series. Charlie did neither, it's hard to imagine she was ever actually on this show

I dislike predictable winners too but at least Vicky and Scarlett decided to show up