[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Its called morales

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Disabled kids is a depth you never,ever sink too

It's also called comedy. By a comedian. On a stage at a comedy gig. It's not real, and the humour is in the shock factor of the joke, not the target itself.

But hey, I always suspected the double standards on here were real

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So political correctness is needed then?

It's a point I meant to make in those threads a while back before they were closed. The 'PC gone mad' crowd have absolutely no issues with potentially radically insensitive costumes, it's just 'a bit of fun' after all and people need to 'lighten up', but a comedian making jokes on a comedy stage? Morals! Vile! Lock 'em up! Ban it!

Priorities in the wrong place methinks...

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

It's also called comedy. By a comedian. On a stage at a comedy gig. It's not real, and the humour is in the shock factor of the joke, not the target itself.

But hey, I always suspected the double standards on here were real



It's a point I meant to make in those threads a while back before they were closed. The 'PC gone mad' crowd have absolutely no issues with potentially radically insensitive costumes, it's just 'a bit of fun' after all and people need to 'lighten up', but a comedian making jokes on a comedy stage? Morals! Vile! Lock 'em up! Ban it!

Priorities in the wrong place methinks...

No its not called comedy, is called an evil bastard taking the piss out of a disabled child, if you class that as funny I pity you

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No its not called comedy, is called an evil bastard taking the piss out of a disabled child, if you class that as funny I pity you

You don't get to decide what comedy is, Chuff. Humour is subjective, there are people in this thread who don't find Peter Kay funny, you and others do - we are all unique and have different interests, such is the beauty of life.

Frankie Boyle is a professional comedian. People pay money to see him do a comedy gig, where he tells jokes, like a comedian does. As with all dark humour, the comedy is in the 'I can't believe they just said that' shock factor of the joke - rather than the target itself. Also, a lot of Frankie's comedy has satirical and political undertones to it, if you aren't going to bother watching him you wouldn't understand that.

Finally, I'm not going to be lectured about morals by someone who continually mocks people based on their appearance, and for experiencing bereavement. Mine are in a much better state than yours I can assure you. And as for disabled people, I'm pretty sure you recently made a comment that a disabled participant on Strictly Come Dancing was only progressing on the 'pity vote', so

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

You don't get to decide what comedy is, Chuff. Humour is subjective, there are people in this thread who don't find Peter Kay funny, you and others do - we are all unique and have different interests, such is the beauty of life.

Frankie Boyle is a professional comedian. People pay money to see him do a comedy gig, where he tells jokes, like a comedian does. As with all dark humour, the comedy is in the 'I can't believe they just said that' shock factor of the joke - rather than the target itself. Also, a lot of Frankie's comedy has satirical and political undertones to it, if you aren't going to bother watching him you wouldn't understand that.

Finally, I'm not going to be lectured about morals by someone who continually mocks people based on their appearance, and for experiencing bereavement. Mine are in a much better state than yours I can assure you. And as for disabled people, I'm pretty sure you recently made a comment that a disabled participant on Strictly Come Dancing was only progressing on the 'pity vote', so

No I dont, but I know the difference between right and wrong and to take the piss out of a severely disabled child is NOT and never should be called comedy ,if you have to sink to these levels you shouldn't be walking the earth ,saying someone is after the pity vote and saying a disabled childs Mam had to marry a cage fighter to stop the child raping his Mam is totally different

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No I dont, but I know the difference between right and wrong and to take the piss out of a severely disabled child is NOT and never should be called comedy ,if you have to sink to these levels you shouldn't be walking the earth ,saying someone is after the pity vote and saying a disabled childs Mam had to marry a cage fighter to stop the child raping his Mam is totally different

If you know the difference between right and wrong, why do continually mock people for the way they look, make nasty comments about bereaved people you've never met and disparaging ones about the parental qualities of people on television shows, or express borderline or outright racist, homophobic and transphobic views? That doesn't make sense.

Again, I'll explain in simple terms - the humour of dark comedy comes not in the 'HAHA he insulted that disabled kid', it's in the shock factor of 'I can't believe he just said that'. Hence why most laughs at one of his (or other comedians of his ilk) gigs are preceded by 'oooohs'. Also, the joke in question was not actually about Harvey, but about Katie Price parading her children around in the public eye. He's explained this on several occasions.

The difference between you and I Chuff is that in the ~real world~ I don't make or agree with genuinely disparaging and nasty comments that have malicious intentions towards real people. Jokes are just that - jokes. They are not serious comments, the people making them or laughing at them aren't being serious, they are flippant and nothing else. Faux outrage over a comedian making jokes but having no issue with racially insensitive remarks makes no sense. Your priorities and morals are completely misplaced.

Finally, you've said in this thread you like Chubby Brown, a comedian whose material is largely rooted in racial material. Now I have no issue with this, a joke is a joke, but you can't be outraged over one topic and not the other. What is it, homophobia, racism and transphobia are fine but leave the poor disabled alone? Ridiculous and patronising.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

If you know the difference between right and wrong, why do continually mock people for the way they look, make nasty comments about bereaved people you've never met and disparaging ones about the parental qualities of people on television shows, or express borderline or outright racist, homophobic and transphobic views? That doesn't make sense.

Again, I'll explain in simple terms - the humour of dark comedy comes not in the 'HAHA he insulted that disabled kid', it's in the shock factor of 'I can't believe he just said that'. Hence why most laughs at one of his (or other comedians of his ilk) gigs are preceded by 'oooohs'. Also, the joke in question was not actually about Harvey, but about Katie Price parading her children around in the public eye. He's explained this on several occasions.

The difference between you and I Chuff is that in the ~real world~ I don't make or agree with genuinely disparaging and nasty comments that have malicious intentions towards real people. Jokes are just that - jokes. They are not serious comments, the people making them or laughing at them aren't being serious, they are flippant and nothing else. Faux outrage over a comedian making jokes but having no issue with racially insensitive remarks makes no sense. Your priorities and morals are completely misplaced.

Finally, you've said in this thread you like Chubby Brown, a comedian whose material is largely rooted in racial material. Now I have no issue with this, a joke is a joke, but you can't be outraged over one topic and not the other. What is it, homophobia, racism and transphobia are fine but leave the poor disabled alone? Ridiculous and patronising.

Isn't the difference here that Chuff comments on people who put themselves in the public eye do they must expect some negative as well as positives, their kids are off limits as they don't have a choice?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Isn't the difference here that Chuff comments on people who put themselves in the public eye do they must expect some negative as well as positives, their kids are off limits as they don't have a choice?

That doesn't explain the hypocrisy of only opposing PC when it suits her. She's all for racist comedians and spreading venom about but she gets precious over a comedian's routine? A performance is a performance, she can't champion Chubby Brown and then get all 'Helen Lovejoy' over another.

A person can't act offended and then in another thread choose to dish out vile comments about grieving widows or have a suspicious trend of hating most women of colour that appear in Reality TV shows.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Isn't the difference here that Chuff comments on people who put themselves in the public eye do they must expect some negative as well as positives, their kids are off limits as they don't have a choice?

Morals or lack of them Cherie !!

[Cherie]

Love car share, not so keen on Max and Paddy, I find him funny and not funny in equal measure, Mr C likes him and I am going along for the experience, been a while since I have been to see a live comedian

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Love car share, not so keen on Max and Paddy, I find him funny and not funny in equal measure, Mr C likes him and I am going along for the experience, been a while since I have been to see a live comedian

It would be a boring world Cherie if we all liked/disliked the same thing ,Enjoy the tour xxx

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

It would be a boring world Cherie if we all liked/disliked the same thing ,Enjoy the tour xxx

You should at least try and give the safari park episode of Car Share a go. Genius 30 minutes!