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Old 27-11-2017, 11:32 AM #1
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lorraine humphrey won't inspire me to apply to be a poet ! 27.11.17



i am going to apply

even if one more GCSE does discourage

no humiliation will ever dry

i got bigger balls then farage.

what is on my side

very articulate timing

head on and never a hide

all expressed in rhyming.

it may all be sewage

not even worthy of the gutter

in highgate i cause extreme silage

leaving before they pulled the shutter.

to the department of work and pensions

all colleague's leave me not confident

may i suggest a end to your pay extensions

like me as a poet your incompetent.

a great news story

to the investigation we owe it

it inspired from me this jackanory

just remember don't give me the job as a poet.

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/500561...hologist-103k/
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Old 27-11-2017, 11:47 AM #2
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People can apply for whatever they like, as long as businesses aren't forced to hire under qualified people.
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A someone currently lumbered with TWO new employees who are utterly incompetent, but I'm not allowed to get rid of... no... anyone who is not qualified for a position should **** off and let someone who CAN do it get the job, because basically, a competent person is being overlooked in favour of someone who interviewed well but flat out can't do the job.
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Then again, on the flipside, my father-in-law blagged his way into a job (with a decent salary) that he wasn't qualified for nearly 20 years ago... told them he had experience with various programming languages and software packages... then learned them at home after getting the job whilst pretending to know what he was doing whilst there . He's still with the same company .

Also, I said I had kitchen experience to get my first job, when I had zero experience of any kind. I had never had a job. However... I could cook and I had common sense so what else is really needed to flip burgers, put together some nachos and make fry-ups. I mean yeah OK they put me in charge of using industrial kitchen equipment with absolutely no idea what I was doing but I muddled through and it was fine after a couple of stressful weeks...


So I guess, above, I don't think it's qualifications that are the problem... someone who is confident, adaptable and has common sense will fit into any job. Someone who is nervous, not willing to learn, or just plain incompetent will be a hindrance to any employer.
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People can apply for whatever they like, as long as businesses aren't forced to hire under qualified people.
Exactly what I was going to say...

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A someone currently lumbered with TWO new employees who are utterly incompetent, but I'm not allowed to get rid of... no... anyone who is not qualified for a position should **** off and let someone who CAN do it get the job, because basically, a competent person is being overlooked in favour of someone who interviewed well but flat out can't do the job.
Looks to me as though the fault here lies with the employer. If they're incompetent then they either should have been offered a more constructive training scheme, or shouldn't have been hired in the first place.
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Exactly what I was going to say...



Looks to me as though the fault here lies with the employer. If they're incompetent then they either should have been offered a more constructive training scheme, or shouldn't have been hired in the first place.
The latter; unfortunately, hiring and firing lies in the hands of upper management who will never actually have to work with, or attempt to train, the people they hire. One of them might get there eventually if he ups his game, but we're talking 6+ months to be competent and he's already been with us 4 months. The other I am fairly convinced is untrainable... he just isn't suited to the job, at all. He is basically currently being paid to make the job harder for everyone else, which is an absolute mess of a situation.
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I think the question really should be the other way round surely?

If someone has trained for a number of years to do a particular job, and jobs aren't currently available in that role, should they be given time to find something that matches their skill set before being forced to take something else. I think they should be given time
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No,they should not.

Neither should employers be expected to take on anyone not qualified for the position either.
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I think the question really should be the other way round surely?

If someone has trained for a number of years to do a particular job, and jobs aren't currently available in that role, should they be given time to find something that matches their skill set before being forced to take something else. I think they should be given time
would agree with that

although the other issue isn't exactly black or white someone could show up who although under qualifed, picks the job up quickly and as long as the firm shows a willingness to provide training and both parties are happy it could work fine. If on the other hand they show no interest or are not able to do the job to a decent degree after a 3 month period then they shouldn't be there.
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The latter; unfortunately, hiring and firing lies in the hands of upper management who will never actually have to work with, or attempt to train, the people they hire. One of them might get there eventually if he ups his game, but we're talking 6+ months to be competent and he's already been with us 4 months. The other I am fairly convinced is untrainable... he just isn't suited to the job, at all. He is basically currently being paid to make the job harder for everyone else, which is an absolute mess of a situation.

is there no probationary period in place ?
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It's pointless to apply for jobs you won't get, a waste of time for both the jobseeker and the job centre. Job Centres should do more to help it's clients find work, not have them waste time on ticking boxes for the sake of bureaucracy.
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Depends how big her tits are.
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Jobseekers should be forced to apply for jobs they are over-qualified for until they get the right job for them.
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Why should employers have to put up with being sent unqualified people? what a waste of resources.
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My father in law placed an ad with the jobcentre like 5 years back. looking for DJs with experience of using a certain system. There were literally 200 applications over 2 days..only 2 of the people actually had the experience necessary (and both got a job)

Its really stupid saying people have to apply for stuff they are not suited for. Its just a waste of everyones time.
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