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Old 02-12-2017, 03:00 PM #1
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To be fair here, it WOULD be hard to identify someone on cctv if they were covering their face. Same as it would be hard to identify someone who, for example, walked into a shop with a motorcycle helmet on.

But I don't really think banning anything is the answer here. If security guards are worried about stopping people in burkhas, they need to (excuse the phrase, it just works best here) man the **** up.

I have to be honest here though, I do think anywhere that requires cctv...people should not be able to cover their face. This would include the likes of shopping centres and such. You would not be able to go shopping in a balaclava. But at the same time, this would mean a lot of Muslim women could not go shopping or anything which is kind of unfair too. So I don't know the answer really :S
Not really, cctv can follow their movements for hours really, before and after the attack. Unless their attack is in some secluded area, which would probably make it even easier cos they'd likely get there and get away by car.
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Not really, cctv can follow their movements for hours really, before and after the attack. Unless their attack is in some secluded area, which would probably make it even easier cos they'd likely get there and get away by car.
But what use is that if you still cannot see who they are?

Not trying to be awkward here. Just don't quite understand
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But what use is that if you still cannot see who they are?

Not trying to be awkward here. Just don't quite understand
You'd follow the movements of the terrorist until you'd catch up with them.

I mean, I'd almost argue that "the one walking hastily in a burqa" is a better descriptor than "brown eyes and a cute v neck t shirt".

These attacks almost always happen in city centres with heavy cctv, which is probably why this isnt an actual issue outside of Brillos mind.
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You'd follow the movements of the terrorist until you'd catch up with them.

I mean, I'd almost argue that "the one walking hastily in a burqa" is a better descriptor than "brown eyes and a cute v neck t shirt".

These attacks almost always happen in city centres with heavy cctv, which is probably why this isnt an actual issue outside of Brillos mind.
Yeah thats a decent point I guess.

My issue would be..there are always blind spots in cctv. Would be quite easy to duck into an alley and take off the burkha, then the people watching will still be looking for a quick moving dementor.

But thats unlikely too really...that they would also know where the blind spots were and such (I know where all the blind spots are in Durham city centre Brother in law works on the cctv)
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Yeah thats a decent point I guess.

My issue would be..there are always blind spots in cctv. Would be quite easy to duck into an alley and take off the burkha, then the people watching will still be looking for a quick moving dementor.

But thats unlikely too really...that they would also know where the blind spots were and such (I know where all the blind spots are in Durham city centre Brother in law works on the cctv)
You would have to have knowledge of where blindspots are though which isn't exactly common knowledge, if a terrorist disappeared down an alley it doesn't mean they won't show up on another set of cameras at the other end.

There's too much CCTV to commit such a serious crime in public and get away with it. If they don't get caught at the scene of the crime then it's always a few hours later.
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You'd follow the movements of the terrorist until you'd catch up with them.

I mean, I'd almost argue that "the one walking hastily in a burqa" is a better descriptor than "brown eyes and a cute v neck t shirt".

These attacks almost always happen in city centres, which is probably why this isnt an actual issue outside of Brillos mind.
They could disappear into a blind spot, slip of the Burkha, and quickly merge into the crowd. In a busy shopping centre it would be hard to identify them.
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They could disappear into a blind spot, slip of the Burkha, and quickly merge into the crowd. In a busy shopping centre it would be hard to identify them.
So could literally every other criminal in the entire history of the world ever, but lets not campaign for compulsary nudism at all times.
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So could literally every other criminal in the entire history of the world ever, but lets not campaign for compulsary nudism at all times.
What a lovely thought
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