[Jamie89]

Hmm, I do think that racism and sexism can sometimes play a part in how well contestants do in RTV shows. To deny that would be to deny that racism and sexism exist imo. I don't think it effects outcomes to a major extent though as I think there a far more people who aren't racist or sexist, and there are probably a bunch of people who are kinda racist and/or sexist who occasionally like black/female contestants. It's probably not so black and white (no pun intended). As in, yes I imagine there's an influence there but it's not so determinate that it means black women will always perform worse than everyone else.
Makosi is probably a bad example for them to use though. Wasn't she the favourite to win for the first few weeks? She was hugely popular with the public, it turned around after she lied about getting pregnant and much of her behaviour after that.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Hmm, I do think that racism and sexism can sometimes play a part in how well contestants do in RTV shows. To deny that would be to deny that racism and sexism exist imo. I don't think it effects outcomes to a major extent though as I think there a far more people who aren't racist or sexist, and there are probably a bunch of people who are kinda racist and/or sexist who occasionally like black/female contestants. It's probably not so black and white (no pun intended). As in, yes I imagine there's an influence there but it's not so determinate that it means black women will always perform worse than everyone else.
Makosi is probably a bad example for them to use though. Wasn't she the favourite to win for the first few weeks? She was hugely popular with the public, it turned around after she lied about getting pregnant and much of her behaviour after that.

All the women mentioned in the article are all from different backgrounds and have different personalities the only thing they have in common is their race .

Makosi is a BAD example for sure as she ruined her own chances of winning but i don't think she would of won anyway , some people even think Kinga had a chance which is laughable and that the nasty wine bottle incident ruined her chances .But Neither of them would of won.

Anthony was a fav to win for a long time and the crap with Craig just gained him more votes ,probably sympathy votes having to put up with an emotional unstable stalker .

But let's all be real when we acknowledge racism , sexism and other prejudices still exists today , I don't always think discrimination is the result of something bad happening to a contestant but it does definitely play a part sometimes .

And the statistics for these shows don't look good atall .

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

All the women mentioned in the article are all from different backgrounds and have different personalities the only thing they have in common is their race .

Makosi is a BAD example for sure as she ruined her own chances of winning but i don't think she would of won anyway , some people even think Kinga had a chance which is laughable and that the nasty wine bottle incident ruined her chances .But Neither of them would of won.

Anthony was a fav to win for a long time and the crap with Craig just gained him more votes ,probably sympathy votes having to put up with an emotional unstable stalker .

But let's all be real when we acknowledge racism , sexism and other prejudices still exists today , I don't always think discrimination is the result of something bad happening to a contestant but it does definitely play a part sometimes .

And the statistics for these shows don't look good atall .

And their vile attitude

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

And their vile attitude

What on Earth are you talking about ! did you even watch Melanie & Makosi in BB ?. I bet you're just making up your mind from what you've heard and been told.

And you still seem to believe the malicious crap written about Alexandra , the only thing that's vile are those lies written about Alexandra.

Joanna was a strong candidate and had some good ideas and her business had potential, so tell me how she has a "vile attitude"?.

If you're referring to her argumentative side then that's unfair as every woman from this apprentice near enough was argumentative, Siobhan was one of the worst ones this year . Elizabeth was a nightmare for people to work with, Jade was stuck up and rude at times.

But because Joanna happens to be on the receiving end of some of the arguments then she's the "aggressive vile one" hmm interesting :

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

What on Earth are you talking about ! did you even watch Melanie & Makosi in BB ?. I bet you're just making up your mind from what you've heard and been told.

And you still seem to believe the malicious crap written about Alexandra , the only thing that's vile are those lies written about Alexandra.

Joanna was a strong candidate and had some good ideas and her business had potential, so tell me how she has a "vile attitude"?.

If you're referring to her argumentative side then that's unfair as every woman from this apprentice near enough was argumentative, Siobhan was one of the worst ones this year . Elizabeth was a nightmare for people to work with, Jade was stuck up and rude at times.

But because Joanna happens to be on the receiving end of some of the arguments then she's the "aggressive vile one" hmm interesting :

Ive watched every series both normal and Cbb since series 1 ........ and still say the only nice black woman in any series has been Alison Hammond, they will never win, nor should they unless they realise you get further in life being nice than nasty, something their mothers should have learned them from an early age

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Ive watched every series both normal and Cbb since series 1 ........ and still say the only nice black woman in any series has been Alison Hammond, they will never win, nor should they unless they realise you get further in life being nice than nasty, something their mothers should have learned them from an early age

Are you being serious , Alison was and still is a lovely bubbly person .
But to actually say she's the only nice black woman to enter BB is absurd and offensive.

Sandi from Gogglebox was fairly nice And she seemed like a mother figure and tried to be a peacemaker, plus she cleaned and cooked while others sat on their lazy arses . Ohh let me guess you think Sandi is fake?? .

Latoya Jackson didn't behave bad in the house she was just quiet .

What did Adjoa do that was bad?? I didn't watch much of that series but I didn't see her do anything that bad apart from talk about sex which is what all of them do in that house ,and some even have sex .


There's so many other examples i can say but I'm busy today .