[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by Livia

I have to say I'm quite surprised you're so offended by something like this show, and of Loose Women. I'd like if off the air too but because it's sh*t.

I also have links to the army. The UK appointed their first female general ever... in 2015. Things are moving but they are moving glacially slowly and it'll be a long, long time before women are actually equal, and that's just in the West. Let's not even get into women's place in the world.

Of course, but I am talking about jobs which BOTH genders are equally handling, office jobs, police, consultances, teachers even doctors.

It's just a fact that some jobs will be catered towards other genders. That tends to be army with males and yes, it will always be like that... but that's also like midwifery, nurses and carers will always be mostly women... sure there are men, but they are in the minority, just like females are in the minority in army. Perhaps in 2040 or something, 50% of women will be in the army and 50% of men will be nurses or carers.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't know one woman who thinks women are superior. Not one. If one dim woman says we are, then she's clearly not the deep thinker she thinks she is.

Loose Women, most of them have spent the whole hour saying "men are useless at this and that, women are much better". God knows why i watched the whole show. was fascinated.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

Loose Women, most of them have spent the whole hour saying "men are useless at this and that, women are much better". God knows why i watched the whole show. was fascinated.

I've only ever seen it by accident. I'm usually working... I feel it's aimed at the Jeremy Kyle audience.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've only ever seen it by accident. I'm usually working... I feel it's aimed at the Jeremy Kyle audience.

I have it on the background as it follows This Morning on my days off work (i usually either get both Sat and Sunday off or Sunday and a weekday).

Sorry, didn't mean to come across as a tool, just wanted to share my opinion

[Smithy]

Wah wah wah, why isn’t everything about me! A man! What about me!

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[Northern Monkey]

This series needs the truth

[Strictly Jake]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Wah wah wah, why isn’t everything about me! A man! What about me!

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Who is that comment aimed at

[luvjustin]

Why is there no white history month..?

When is straight pride day..?

When oh when will somebody think about the poor hard trodden straight white man?!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

If you don't think that men still run the world, fight the wars, make the decisions... then maybe it is not I who is surrounded by the wrong people.

You find it sexist. That's your right, I disagree. The rest of the stuff about women voting and the crowd being scummy... I can't really comment on who boos the loudest and who picks up the phone.

Exactly and regarding surrounding yourself with people - you live life and have to interact with all types of people not by choice but through work, school, uni etc etc

[Eddie.]

It would be CBB5, but in 2018 with the amount of Ofcom complaints.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

Why is there no white history month..?

When is straight pride day..?

When oh when will somebody think about the poor hard trodden straight white man?!

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

Why is there no white history month..?

When is straight pride day..?

When oh when will somebody think about the poor hard trodden straight white man?!

There's no white history month because historically white people were never discriminated against because of the colour of their skin, and dint have to fight for rights.

There is no straight pride day because again, until a certain point in time people who were gay were branded as different or unusual and it's only been this century that they've finally had acceptance across the world so there is a day to remember and celebrate that.

And finally there isn't anybody thinking about the 'poor, hard trodden straight white man' because once again, historically, they haven't had to fight for rights or equality in this world.

Seriously thought these things were pretty obvious. Get educated.

[Niamh.]

I read luvjustins post as sarcastic

[Northern Monkey]

I feel that modern feminism is now just creating divisions which otherwise wouldn’t be there.We all have important women and men in our lives.
Women men aren’t your enemy.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

There's no white history month because historically white people were never discriminated against because of the colour of their skin, and dint have to fight for rights.

There is no straight pride day because again, until a certain point in time people who were gay were branded as different or unusual and it's only been this century that they've finally had acceptance across the world so there is a day to remember and celebrate that.

And finally there isn't anybody thinking about the 'poor, hard trodden straight white man' because once again, historically, they haven't had to fight for rights or equality in this world.

Seriously thought these things were pretty obvious. Get educated.

What about Ginger kids day, kids with glasses, people with a lisp day ? the list could go on and on,but it doesn't because those people just get on with it and don't feel sorry for themselves

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I feel that modern feminism is now just creating divisions which otherwise wouldn’t be there.We all have important women and men in our lives.
Women men aren’t your enemy.

Exactly !

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I read luvjustins post as sarcastic

Oh I was already pretty riled, my sarcasm filter disappears when I'm angry

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

What about Ginger kids day, kids with glasses, people with a lisp day ? the list could go on and on,but it doesn't because those people just get on with it and don't feel sorry for themselves

Have those people you mentioned been imprisoned like gay people were? Have those people you mentioned been banned from voting in elections like women were? Have those people you mentioned been segregated from the rest of society and denied equal opportunities like black people were? No, no, no.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

What about Ginger kids day, kids with glasses, people with a lisp day ? the list could go on and on,but it doesn't because those people just get on with it and don't feel sorry for themselves

Yeah remember when gingers couldn't vote, sad times :'(

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

Have those people you mentioned been imprisoned like gay people were? Have those people you mentioned been banned from voting in elections like women were? Have those people you mentioned been segregated from the rest of society and denied equal opportunities like black people were? No, no, no.

WERE not ARE move on

[Livia]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

I have it on the background as it follows This Morning on my days off work (i usually either get both Sat and Sunday off or Sunday and a weekday).

Sorry, didn't mean to come across as a tool, just wanted to share my opinion

Oh, you didn't! I enjoyed our discussion.

Stop watching Loose Women, it just encourages them.

[Tom4784]

It wouldn't work because that's the norm anyway. Every year is Year of the Man.

Nothing about a female focused show should be offensive to men, it's only the little men that are used to everything revolving around them and women with internalised sexism that are like 'an all female launch to celebrate the anniversary of the implementation women's right to vote? HOW DARE THEY?!'

[Robodog]

Men would be embarassed to have an all male launch, an all male audience, celebrating all things 'male'

If would be like, so cheesy and shallow

Can you imagine a group of guys all whooping and shouting, celebrating 'boy power'?

(cringe)

Sure, men enjoy each others company to a point, but they would soon get very bored of an all-male household.

The most exciting thing for men would be when the women arrived.

Men love women, just as women love men. Makes the world go round.

A single-gender experiment like this can only go so far before it runs out of steam.

BB knows this too of course, which is why the men are going in after only 4 days.

Any longer and the energy, the interest and the ratings would drop.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

There's no white history month because historically white people were never discriminated against because of the colour of their skin, and dint have to fight for rights.

There is no straight pride day because again, until a certain point in time people who were gay were branded as different or unusual and it's only been this century that they've finally had acceptance across the world so there is a day to remember and celebrate that.

And finally there isn't anybody thinking about the 'poor, hard trodden straight white man' because once again, historically, they haven't had to fight for rights or equality in this world.

Seriously thought these things were pretty obvious. Get educated.

Excuse me...white men have fought and sacrificed themselves in 2 world wars in a fight for rights and equality....the rest though...well said.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

What about Ginger kids day, kids with glasses, people with a lisp day ? the list could go on and on,but it doesn't because those people just get on with it and don't feel sorry for themselves

So its unacceptable to call a kid ginger but to call a trans-gendered person by the wrong pronoun is fair game?