[Beso]

Wrong forum hun..i will msg arista to msg the mods to have it moved on your behalf.

[EspeonBB]

He may not fit the biological definition of 'male' but he identifies as a man and I see him as a man

[Livia]

He's a transsexual man. Not like someone born a man, different... but worth just as much.

[LukeB]

Yes

Just like Nadia is a woman like the females on tibb

[Cherie]

I view Luke A as male, I view India as female given what they have gone through to be what they want to be they have earned the title

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I view Luke A as male, I view India as female given what they have gone through to be what they want to be they have earned the title

This is exactly my view

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Yes

Just like Nadia is a woman like the females on tibb

you're not here to discuss the females on TiBB though.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I view Luke A as male, I view India as female given what they have gone through to be what they want to be they have earned the title

I agree, I think once you have completed a transition, you should be regarded as that gender.

[RileyH]

definitely

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Livia

He's a transsexual man. Not like someone born a man, different... but worth just as much.

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I agree, I think once you have completed a transition, you should be regarded as that gender.

I kind of agree with both of these simultaneously

A transwoman is a transwoman and a transman is a transman.

But 'rights' wise I do think they should be regarded as the sex they want to be...IF fully transitioned.

But I do think the current few exceptions should remain in the law as it stands for even fully transitioned people (ie. female only rape crisis centres, a transsexual woman could not work there as its female only)

[T*]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I view Luke A as male, I view India as female given what they have gone through to be what they want to be they have earned the title

^

[Morgan.]

Yes of course.

[caprimint]

What's the difference between transsexual and transgender?

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by caprimint

What's the difference between transsexual and transgender?

Transsexual - a person who emotionally and psychologically feels that they belong to the opposite sex.
Transgender - denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

Transsexual - a person who emotionally and psychologically feels that they belong to the opposite sex.
Transgender - denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.

But that's basically the same thing with different wording?

[Jamie89]

I find the difference a bit confusing too, but I THINK that transgender is an umbrella term which lots of different things fall under, and transexual is one of those things. So it's not that they're the same or separate but one is part of the other. Ie. if you're transexual you are also transgender, but being transgender doesn't mean you are necessarily transexual... if that makes sense?

edit to add (I could be wrong)

[Vicky.]

Transsexual is someone who suffers sex dysphoria and wants to be the opposite sex

Transgender is anyone under this

Spoiler:

Including people who do not suffer any dysphoria at all but still claim they are the opposite sex and are so deluded that they say things like 'my penis is a female organ as it is attached to a woman' whilst not actually being transsexual! Its all a big cluster**** at the moment tbh.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

I find the difference a bit confusing too, but I THINK that transgender is an umbrella term which lots of different things fall under, and transexual is one of those things. So it's not that they're the same or separate but one is part of the other. Ie. if you're transexual you are also transgender, but being transgender doesn't mean you are necessarily transexual... if that makes sense?

This is correct. The transumbrella is so wide basically every person falls under it. we are all transgender

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This is correct. The transumbrella is so wide basically every person falls under it. we are all transgender

It was actually your transumbrella I was thinking of from a previous discussion about this but I couldn't quite remember if I'd got it right or not

[Firewire]

Can you delete this and let me vote again I’m not transphobic I swear!

[AnnieK]

Has Luke A fully transitioned now? This is a genuine question before anyone jumps on me. I know when he was in the house he hadn't had the full reassignment and was quite open about that and wondered if he now has?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Has Luke A fully transitioned now? This is a genuine question before anyone jumps on me. I know when he was in the house he hadn't had the full reassignment and was quite open about that and wondered if he now has?

Not sure..didn't he say that he wanted to buy a dick with the prize money? Sure I remember that for some reason

[Daniel-X]

Don't see why anyone wouldn't.

[Vicky.]

https://closeronline.co.uk/real-life...new-year-baby/

This is the most recent I can find. Putting off the op as the neopenises (is this the right term?! I know the surgically created 'vaginas' are called neovaginas ) are not too good at the moment basically. Which is true. I have seen a few results photos and its definitely not as advanced as the MtF surgery is. But I guess..going with the sexism line again...MtF people are male, so male advances come before female.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

But that's basically the same thing with different wording?

I used google because I didn't want to get crucified for getting it wrong :/