[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Makes my blood boil !

She's very arrogant.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

It's become pretty clear to me that India's biggest problem is being unable to see things from someone else's pov, and see past her victim status. I understand her being upset but she can't dictate sexual preferences to other people, it's completely inappropriate.
I don't get the "I would never be attracted to a trans person" thing personally as you might not even know someone is trans, so it doesn't make much sense to me, but whatever, he's still entitled to that preference.

Well if we are honest, most times you can tell. Especially with transwomen. Transmen do tend to pass very well in a few cases but they still have vaginas, and if they do not, its still not a 'penis'

The likes of Blair White pass very well...male friends have said they do find Blair attractive facially and such but could not sleep with someone who has a penis, as they are not gay. Even with SRS, its not a 'vagina...its an inverted penis or bits of colon made into a hole. So its still different. So I definitely understand saying you could never go there sexually tbh. It does noone any favours to pretend neovaginas are actual vaginas.

[-Sue-]

Hmm India may have lost her D*ck but now she still acts very much like one!!! sheesh!!!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

She's very arrogant.

But turns herself into the victim in a heartbeat

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

But turns herself into the victim in a heartbeat

Malika has her sussed. I hope India gets a lot of nominations. She will flip

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Malika has her sussed. I hope India gets a lot of nominations. She will flip

They will all be transphobic !! Im sure she will get loads of nominations !!

[Withano]

Hi. Would you give a transwoman your bank account details

No

Im sick to death of this

Hi. Would you jump in a lake of piranhas for lil ole me

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Malika has her sussed. I hope India gets a lot of nominations. She will flip

oh yes I can almost hear the DR rant now ' CBB It took me 50 years.. blah blah blah... misgender... blah blah..' (distant sound of CBB person on the mic snoring! as they too have heard it all before)

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well if we are honest, most times you can tell. Especially with transwomen. Transmen do tend to pass very well in a few cases but they still have vaginas, and if they do not, its still not a 'penis'

The likes of Blair White pass very well...male friends have said they do find Blair attractive facially and such but could not sleep with someone who has a penis, as they are not gay. Even with SRS, its not a 'vagina...its an inverted penis or bits of colon made into a hole. So its still different. So I definitely understand saying you could never go there sexually tbh. It does noone any favours to pretend neovaginas are actual vaginas.

I'm not really sure on the ins and outs - pardon the expression - of the genitalia post SRS tbh, I was just thinking if in a situation where someone can't tell, and if their genitals did match (god that seems like a bad way of putting it ), and where someone is attracted to them on meeting them and would want to date them (before knowing of their trans status), I know it wouldn't be a common scenario it just puzzles me why someone would completely rule that out as ever being a possibility is all. I totally defend someones right to that preference, I just don't really get it personally is all. (And although I believe India was in the wrong here with how she reacted, I can see how there might be a feeling of hopelessness when you hear something like that and how that might be upsetting).

[y.winter]

India is deep into this victim trip and she can't help herself out.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by y.winter

India is deep into this victim trip and she can't help herself out.

She doesn't want to be treat like other women,she wants to be treat different !

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

I'm not really sure on the ins and outs - pardon the expression - of the genitalia post SRS tbh, I was just thinking if in a situation where someone can't tell, and if their genitals did match (god that seems like a bad way of putting it ), and where someone is attracted to them on meeting them and would want to date them (before knowing of their trans status), I know it wouldn't be a common scenario it just puzzles me why someone would completely rule that out as ever being a possibility is all. I totally defend someones right to that preference, I just don't really get it personally is all. (And although I believe India was in the wrong here with how she reacted, I can see how there might be a feeling of hopelessness when you hear something like that and how that might be upsetting).

The thing is.There’s more to being a woman even physically than just a vagina.
Softer skin,Women smell different,Less hair,Rounder hips,different frame,less muscularity.Men don’t just think “pussy” when they see a woman.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The reason she is getting away with it is because she feels protected due to current PC. She thinks no one will dare criticise a transgender on TV.

Someone show her and the PC brigade that people will speak up.

This is her game. It's a shame really. I liked the look of her when she went in...I hoped she wasn't going to be a diva...but she has been just that.She is shallow and one dimensional and everything is about her and her journey.
She could have played this so differently...been mature and gained respect and represented the Transgender community better. She should respect other people's walk of life, add to debates and shown other sides of her...instead all she wants to do is talk about her transitions, her journey and make an issue about being called 'he' and making it all about her instead of trying to understand people around her accept her dramatic change.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

The thing is.There’s more to being a woman even physically than just a vagina.
Softer skin,Women smell different,Less hair,Rounder hips,different frame,less muscularity.Men don’t just think “pussy” when they see a woman.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

The thing is.There’s more to being a woman even physically than just a vagina.
Softer skin,Women smell different,Less hair,Rounder hips,different frame,less muscularity.Men don’t just think “pussy” when they see a woman.

Yes indeed. Another reason I find 'vagina fetishist' for someone who is attracted to real/natal/biological women only really ****ing awful.

[Monkey Slut]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

I don't get the "I would never be attracted to a trans person" thing personally as you might not even know someone is trans, so it doesn't make much sense to me, but whatever, he's still entitled to that preference.

I agree, I think it's a strange statement and one usually made out of ignorance by people who assume that you can tell if a woman (in this case) is trans just by looking at them which isn't always true. Ginuwine may have been attracted to trans women before and not known.

Dating and relationships are different, other things come into play there and he's totally entitled to his preference to not want to enter into a relationship with a trans woman.

[BigBrotherGuy100]

I really Don't remember Nadia, Luke A or Kelly going on like her hmmmm?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

This is her game. It's a shame really. I liked the look of her when she went in...I hoped she wasn't going to be a diva...but she has been just that.She is shallow and one dimensional and everything is about her and her journey.
She could have played this so differently...been mature and gained respect and represented the Transgender community better. She should respect other people's walk of life, add to debates and shown other sides of her...instead all she wants to do is talk about her transitions, her journey and make an issue about being called 'he' and making it all about her instead of trying to understand people around her accept her dramatic change.

Indeed rusticgal - she had the power and she blew it big time. She has so exposed and embarrassed herself for the type of person she is and that has absolutely nothing to do with her sex. I would say I feel for her, but I don’t. She is a bitter woman.

[-Sue-]

I wish we could see more of India beyond the transition talk I really hoped she would be a great fun filled HM sadly after the 'this is CBB not panorama' comment it's all gone a bit wrong for her.

I can understand she is out of her comfort zone but they all are and if she continues to argue over everything and everyone she will leave the building faster than elvis!

Not the place to be if your not 100% comfortable in your own skin telling people how they should react or how they should respond sheesh silly cow I almost dread hearing the '50 years speech again..' but know it's coming! lol

roll on 9pm.. sooo excited ...

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yes indeed. Another reason I find 'vagina fetishist' for someone who is attracted to real/natal/biological women only really ****ing awful.

I take it that’s some transactivist slur for people who are attracted to real women?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I take it that’s some transactivist slur for people who are attracted to real women?

Tends to only be applied to lesbians. Its not just transactivists, a lot of 'normal' transgender people are the same. Lesbians are transphobic bigots as penises on transwomen are female body parts and as such, its the vagina they want so they are vagina fetishists and need to get over their bigotry.

Sounds mental, but its actually fairly common these days. Literally every lesbians friend I have has had an experience with a person like this.

Youtube video

Watch this, if you have spare time. Its all absolutely bat****.

[Scream]

I assumed Malika was feeling sorry for India saying she is a victim in all of this. Am I wrong? Everyone seems to think different?

[LaLaLand]

Oh bore off India.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

The thing is.There’s more to being a woman even physically than just a vagina.
Softer skin,Women smell different,Less hair,Rounder hips,different frame,less muscularity.Men don’t just think “pussy” when they see a woman.

I know, I wasn't trying to make it sound like it's all about genitals lol, I was just responding to a comment about genitals. People can have whatever preferences they want though, and smells/touch/hair/body shape etc etc, all fine and I get it. The angle I was coming from was if somebody matched somebody else's preference in those ways or whatever way it might be, and they were attracted to them and wanted to date them, and the only thing that put them off was finding out they are trans, then although they're perfectly entitled to that, I just don't personally get why they would be.

Originally Posted by Scream

I assumed Malika was feeling sorry for India saying she is a victim in all of this. Am I wrong? Everyone seems to think different?

It seemed to me that she was implying India was playing the victim. I think it happens on tonights show? So I suppose we'll see the full thing then

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Scream

I assumed Malika was feeling sorry for India saying she is a victim in all of this. Am I wrong? Everyone seems to think different?

yes youre wrong I think

She was more we're living with a victim (because India makes herself a victim and people are bored of that)... I think.