[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Livia

Trans women have been men. Surely they must know that not all men will want to be with someone who has a manmade vagina and who used to be a male. Alternatively there will be other men who adore trans women.

And as for acceptance... there is a huge section of society that doesn't see trans women as "real women". Because they're not. They are transsexual women. I've said this before but it's worth saying again... transsexual women are not the same as those of us born a woman... but they are worth exactly the same.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Well, they are trans women rather than women, a topic that has been thrashed around in recent days. There is a big difference and that's where sexual preference comes in. Its not discriminatory as it is a preference.

I appreciate that a lot of people do not consider transwomen to be women, but while that view might be common enough it would still be insulting to transwomen and it's not surprising they'd be hurt by it

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I appreciate that a lot of people do not consider transwomen to be women, but while that view might be common enough it would still be insulting to transwomen and it's not surprising they'd be hurt by it

But its true ,they are not a full blown woman and never can be

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I appreciate that a lot of people do not consider transwomen to be women, but while that view might be common enough it would still be insulting to transwomen and it's not surprising they'd be hurt by it

We all get hurt by rejection. It is a fact of life for all of us that we cannot be protected from. India is no exception. For crying out loud she is over 50 and needs to grow up.

[bots]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I appreciate that a lot of people do not consider transwomen to be women, but while that view might be common enough it would still be insulting to transwomen and it's not surprising they'd be hurt by it

If we take it right back to basics, and this is very applicable in the case of Ginuwine as he has 9 kids. To many in society, procreation is about bringing new generations into the world, its a base instinct across all animals for survival of the species. To interfere with that natural process is next to impossible as it is in the DNA

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I appreciate that a lot of people do not consider transwomen to be women, but while that view might be common enough it would still be insulting to transwomen and it's not surprising they'd be hurt by it

Similarly, when I have worked really hard as a woman in a male dominated workplace, to get to the position I'm in, I find it insulting to be told that someone who transitioned at 50 is the same as I am, and I would be hurt by it. India got to 50 enjoying all the privilege and advantage of being a white man.

They are worth as much, but trans women are not the same as born women. And no one has the right to tell me I am not entitled to that opinion.