[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Its not really refusing to entertain the idea of being with a transwoman though. Its refusing to entertain the idea of being with a male person. The trans does not come into it as much as actual sex does I know its 'trendy' to pretend sex is not real and does not matter these days, so I am pretty old school in my views, but sex does actually matter and to say it does not, is homophobic and actually heterophobic (if I believed that was a thing, just for sake of argument) at the same time!

Well might be a dumb question.. but why does sex matter? What's so important about a person's initial biological makeup if, as you say, it does not define gender?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well might be a dumb question.. but why does sex matter? What's so important about a person's initial biological makeup if, as you say, it does not define gender?

Because people have sexualities based on...sex. Or are you going to be another saying that people should effectively get over their sexualities?

Sex matters. Trans people rarely pass. Especially transwomen.

Would you shag India?

Even if trans people pass..SRS is not advanced enough to be the same as a biological opposite sex body. Its unfortunately for trans people, but thats how it is.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Because people have sexualities based on...sex. Or are you going to be another saying that people should effectively get over their sexualities?

Sex matters. Trans people rarely pass. Especially transwomen.

Would you shag India?

Well I dunno, I dont know how sexuality works lol. I'm not sure about India but there are a lot of transwomen who I think most straight men would be sexually attracted to if they didn't know they were trans

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well I dunno, I dont know how sexuality works lol. I'm not sure about India but there are a lot of transwomen who I think most straight men would be sexually attracted to if they didn't know they were trans

It does become a bit more complicated if the transperson passes as the sex they want to be, granted. But even then there are issues about...transwomen will most likely have a dick, and if not then they will not have an actual vagina, which is kind of a dealbreaker for a lot of people.

If someone passed 100% as a woman, could you shag them and their penis? Or get over the fact that their vagina is not a vagina, its an open wound that needs dilating and is either made of inverted penis or colon? Nothing like a 'real' vagina'.

I know this is personal...just curious how many men would be able to get over their sexuality in that way, as I suspect a lot of people just pay lip service to it and would not actually be able to do it. I am bi and still could not see myself ever with a transperson...and sex is not even important for me as I like both!

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

It does become a bit more complicated if the transperson passes as the sex they want to be, granted. But even then there are issues about...transwomen will most likely have a dick, and if not then they will not have an actual vagina, which is kind of a dealbreaker for a lot of people.

If someone passed 100% as a woman, could you shag them and their penis? Or get over the fact that their vagina is not a vagina, its an open wound that needs dilating and is either made of inverted penis or colon? Nothing like a 'real' vagina'.

I know this is personal...just curious how many men would be able to get over their sexuality in that way, as I suspect a lot of people just pay lip service to it and would not actually be able to do it. I am bi and still could not see myself ever with a transperson...and sex is not even important for me as I like both!

Well when you put it like that..

I mean the honest answer is I wouldn't know until the situation arose, its not like physical and even sexual attraction is solely defined by how the genitals look though

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well when you put it like that..

I mean the honest answer is I wouldn't know until the situation arose, its not like physical and even sexual attraction is solely defined by how the genitals look though

Well no, but I don't know about you...genitals are a pretty big part of my sex life

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well when you put it like that..

I mean the honest answer is I wouldn't know until the situation arose, its not like physical and even sexual attraction is solely defined by how the genitals look though

Well most genitals are pretty gross looking tbh.

But doesn't it go beyond that? A false penis won't feel like a real one and neither will a false vagina. And how it feels impacts your sex life in a big way.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well most genitals are pretty gross looking tbh.

Well yes, not exactly the prettiest things

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well most genitals are pretty gross looking tbh.

But doesn't it go beyond that? A false penis won't feel like a real one and neither will a false vagina. And how it feels impacts your sex life in a big way.

Sure but lots of things can affect your sex life, it might not be the same but it might still be better than sex with a 'normal male/female sometimes is

I mean straight men and women obviously do go out with and marry transwomen and transmen so does that mean they're not really straight or what?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well I dunno, I dont know how sexuality works lol. I'm not sure about India but there are a lot of transwomen who I think most straight men would be sexually attracted to if they didn't know they were trans

But that is a facade. It isn’t exactly as it says on the tin is it. The psychological aspect is equally as important to many as the physical aspect. All the critique in the world cannot change the feelings of the innermost sanctum. To many it just wouldn’t feel right which would kill the sexual attraction.