[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's odd why she would be so against that, it does smack of thinking men are superior to women. Why anyone who would seek out such an archaic set of beliefs as the Catholic church has (after going through them first hand) seems so odd to me though since Ireland as a country has come so far to shake off the bloody thing

It is because she believes c of e should follow the scriptures.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ellen

It is because she believes c of e should follow the scriptures.

I don't think it actually says anywhere in the scriptures that women can't be Priests though

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't think it actually says anywhere in the scriptures that women can't be Priests though

I dont think it uses them terms but the scriptures say women should be subserviant in church because God(a man) is the head of the church.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't think it actually says anywhere in the scriptures that women can't be Priests though

people get their knickers in a knot at the slightest thing in religion though. If its been that way for decades, don't change it ... what makes me laugh is that people can get so up tight over their own interpretations of what is to all intents and purposes fiction

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ellen

I dont think it uses them terms but the scriptures say women should be subserviant in church because God(a man) is the head of the church.

It also says men and women are equal in Gods eyes and it also condons slavery

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

people get their knickers in a knot at the slightest thing in religion though. If its been that way for decades, don't change it ... what makes me laugh is that people can get so up tight over their own interpretations of what is to all intents and purposes fiction

No offence BOTS but coming from a man that means nothing to me, it's easy to be happy with leaving things as they are when you're not the one being discriminated against

But yes, clearly the bible (which I believe is all fiction) was written by men and is in no way forward thinking and very reflective of the times that it was written in, back then slaves were fine in Gods eyes but they have acknowledged that's not right however women being inferior to men is still OK and that part was right? ok then

[bots]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It also says men and women are equal in Gods eyes and it also condons slavery



No offence BOTS but coming from a man that means nothing to me, it's easy to be happy with leaving things as they are when you're not the one being discriminated against

But yes, clearly the bible (which I believe is all fiction) was written by men and is in no way forward thinking and very reflective of the times that it was written in, back then slaves were fine in Gods eyes but they have acknowledged that's not right however women being inferior to men is still OK and that part was right? ok then

the "if it been that way for decades don't change it" was not my opinion, it reflects the anti modernists in the religious groups. Every religion seems to have them, and thats why we have the issues we see today

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the "if it been that way for decades don't change it" was not my opinion, it reflects the anti modernists in the religious groups. Every religion seems to have them, and thats why we have the issues we see today

Ok fair enough, my apologies then. Still though they do change some things (alot of things actually) but they always seemm hell bent (pardon the pun) to keep women and gay people in their place

[Ammi]

..the thing with ‘scriptures’ though is...hasn’t Ann also supported the death penalty ...?...and scriptures tell us that in God’s own words ‘thou shalt not kill’..his saving of Mary Magdalene was because it wasn’t for ‘man’ to judge death because of sins etc...I do personally feel it’s more about a person’s individual interpretation of religion which fits with their own beliefs and thoughts...

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..the thing with ‘scriptures’ though is...hasn’t Ann also supported the death penalty ...?...and scriptures tell us that in God’s own words ‘thou shalt not kill’..his saving of Mary Magdalene was because it wasn’t for ‘man’ to judge death because of sins etc...I do personally feel it’s more about a person’s individual interpretation of religion which fits with their own beliefs and thoughts...

You are right, it is how people interpretate it. Ann did think the death penalty should be re introduced in the hope of stopping lives been taken.