[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I saw it more as trying to gain others support to challenge the views of Ann.
Not attack her.

Why on earth does he need the support of others to challenge her though? That makes it sound even worse tbh. I cannot bring up something thats bothering me unless I have managed to convince everyone around me to back me up when I say it? Nah.

There's a misconstrued view he wanted Wayne to talk to Ann on the issues.
Wayne even said to Amanda Shane hadn't asked him to do so at all.

Its not misconstrued at all. It was clear what he was doing and he did want Wayne to go and start.

I agree he should have gone directly to Ann himself.

I would have respected him for doing this. Very near the start of the show he had this out with Ann about her voting record, and it seemed a mature convo where they were polar opposites but both respected each others right to an opinion.

I am not bothered at all about him challenging her on her views. I like conversations about difficult topics. I just dislike the childish sneaking around behind someones back. Seems the rest of the housemates (bar Malika) agree too.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Why on earth does he need the support of others to challenge her though? That makes it sound even worse tbh. I cannot bring up something thats bothering me unless I have managed to convince everyone around me to back me up when I say it? Nah.


Its not misconstrued at all. It was clear what he was doing and he did want Wayne to go and start.


I would have respected him for doing this. Very near the start of the show he had this out with Ann about her voting record, and it seemed a mature convo where they were polar opposites but both respected each others right to an opinion.

I am not bothered at all about him challenging her on her views. I like conversations about difficult topics. I just dislike the childish sneaking around behind someones back. Seems the rest of the housemates (bar Malika) agree too.

I dont see it your way sorry.
I only see him as wrong for not going to Ann directly.

Other than that as someone else said, the previous night Wayne had mouthed off against Ann.

Wayne inferred he felt Shane would have liked him to approach Ann on the rights issue but Wayne clearly said to Amanda that Shane had not asked him to.
Shane misguidedly possibly thought Wayne may have sided with him.

Also,I have myself,come across a fair number of people who need possibly,or seek support for their position before raIsing possibly contentious issues with others.

We disagree on his reasoning.
I just neither see him being really vindictive or bad.

Misguided as to his hopes and wrong to not just go to Ann directly.
That to me is all I concluded,I saw little to really get at him for on it.