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Old 01-02-2018, 03:22 PM #1
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Yeah I get that some people don't get/see it. I think sometimes unless you are part of the disadvantaged group its something you just won't get as everything does seem to be equal. Like, I will try to explain what I mean from the POV of a woman...who do have equal rights in law from men, but are still disadvantaged anyway. If I go for a job interview, I know that there is a quite large chance that I will be discriminated against for being the age I am and female, as employers think I may go off on maternity leave soon. Whilst they are not allowed to actually not pick me for that reason, it does happen and all they have to say is 'well the man was best for the job'. Its against the law to discriminate based on sex, but it happens and people just have ways around it. At the same time, I am at very large risk of sexual assault, simply for being female. Yes, it is against the law to sexually assault someone, but again, it happens, and a LOT.

I could go on and on about this but I figure this is probably enough and anymore will have me labelled a raving lunatic There are so many different ways people experience discrimination that are not necessarily about the law being unequal. This is why I believe equity is better than equality. Equality totally ignores the various ways that people are still discriminated against. Equality is a great idea, but its just not feasible in reality, if everyone started off on equal footing, then it would be different, but they do not. Sometimes treating everyone equal is the most unfair thing you can do.

Edited to add. I don't walk around feeling sorry for myself because I am a woman and may face discrimination or be attacked for something I cannot change mind. But I do acknowledge that I am likely to be disadvantaged due to my sex.
Yeah I agree with all that and understand it but in the 2 examples you give they are both down to individuals.

The individual who won't hire a woman and the individual who will carry out a sexual assault.

What I'm trying to say is we can only change one person and that's ourselves. That in turn filters down to our children and so on and so on.

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Old 01-02-2018, 03:29 PM #2
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Yeah I agree with all that and understand it but in the 2 examples you give they are both down to individuals.

The individual who won't hire a woman and the individual who will carry out a sexual assault.

What I'm trying to say is we can only change one person and that's ourselves. That in turn filters down to our children and so on and so on.

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Well yes, I guess it is down to individuals, but it is a lot of individuals. Hence its still a huge problem for a lot of people. If it was just the odd person who thought that way then it wouldn't be so much of a problem, but its not. Its a significant minority and it does hold people back for reasons they cannot help or change.

I do think as time goes on things will actually become more equal. But for now, things are not equal in reality even though the law is equal.

The bolded bit I definitely agree with.
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