[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Its incredibly narcissistic aswell to fight for something that will make abuse victims uncomfortable and decide you're more important

Of course it is. And everyone will be able to see that surely..

The reason this all came about was because womens aid is talking about letting self identified women (note. No changes, just any male who says he is a woman) work in womens refuges. They already allow transgender women to use their services on a case by case basis.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Of course it is. And everyone will be able to see that surely..

The reason this all came about was because womens aid is talking about letting self identified women (note. No changes, just any male who says he is a woman) work in womens refuges. They already allow transgender women to use their services on a case by case basis.

Like how caring and empathetic would you be towards the victims if you're willing to take the job in the first place that may straight away make them feel scared and intimidated

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Like how caring and empathetic would you be towards the victims if you're willing to take the job in the first place that may straight away make them feel scared and intimidated

Yup. Its just awful. And honestly, shame on womens aid for considering this. Unless they are considering it as they have already been threatened with being sued because they do not consider male people to be female of course. There was a case in canada where a trans identified male (post op transexual, which is slightly different, but still a male person) held a rape crisis centre up in litigation for 12 years and near bankrupted them, as they said they did not employ males.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimber...pe_Relief_Case

Wiki but has links.

Sorry, but anyone who would do this is an utter arsehole and clearly does not care about the people these places are meant to help.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yup. Its just awful. And honestly, shame on womens aid for considering this. Unless they are considering it as they have already been threatened with being sued because they do not consider male people to be female of course. There was a case in canada where a trans identified male (post op transexual, which is slightly different, but still a male person) held a rape crisis centre up in litigation for 12 years and near bankrupted them, as they said they did not employ males.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimber...pe_Relief_Case

Wiki but has links.

Sorry, but anyone who would do this is an utter arsehole and clearly does not care about the people these places are meant to help.

For someone who shouts how they are a real woman all the time, she doesn't seem to have any understanding or camaraderie with us, she seems to take the side of men alot more. I mean she basically tried to down play abused womens needs for refuges there in that video by saying but men had a bad year too

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

For someone who shouts how they are a real woman all the time, she doesn't seem to have any understanding or camaraderie with us, she seems to take the side of men alot more. I mean she basically tried to down play abused womens needs for refuges there in that video by saying but men had a bad year too

Yup. This is usually the case tbh. Bring up the mass abuse of women by men and get a bunch of 'but women do it too' 'what about the men' 'but lesbians are just as bad' and so on. When its just not true (obviously women DO do it too, but not on such a scale), and shows a disturbing lack of empathy for the women in need of single sex spaces and utter disregard for women fullstop.