[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

pretty much how I feel if they have a doctors diagnosis of gender dysphoria idk why not I mean they are women so

A diagnosis of gender dysphoria actually makes you the opposite sex?

[ethanjames]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

A diagnosis of gender dysphoria actually makes you the opposite sex?

a diagnosis of gender dysphoria from a doctor shows that you mentally the opposite sex and not just a "man wearing a dress" if that makes sense?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

a diagnosis of gender dysphoria from a doctor shows that you mentally the opposite sex and not just a "man wearing a dress" if that makes sense?

I don't believe in brain sex tbh, but I understand where you are coming from.

I totally disagree that this makes them actually the opposite sex though. Sex is a real thing. Its physical, not mental. And we segregate certain areas of life by sex, not by feelings.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

a diagnosis of gender dysphoria from a doctor shows that you mentally the opposite sex and not just a "man wearing a dress" if that makes sense?

But you would still be physically a man and you think that you should be allowed go and work with women who have been abused by men and in a female only refuge? So therefore abused women's right to feel safe in a women only environment comes second to a man who mentally thinks he's a woman's right to work in that environment?

[Maru]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

a diagnosis of gender dysphoria from a doctor shows that you mentally the opposite sex and not just a "man wearing a dress" if that makes sense?

A doctor can diagnose you with fibromyalgia by touching specific points on your back and asking you if there is pain. That's so you can seek treatment and be approved by your insurance...

They can't do scans for chronic pain (yet) and they can't scan brains to see the gender mismatch, so they can only go based on how you feel... many doctors would still consider both to be psych disorders, and they may say very differently to make you and themselves feel better, but that's what effectively they are treating you for... I would know, because I was under the fibro category for many years and had to live with those contradictions. They are doing the moral and ethical thing to take the patient seriously and to still help them to seek care and hopefully feel better.


Also who here is surprised that India would be upset that she doesn't have access to women's shelters? Victimhood is like a career achievement for her, so of course she would need to up the ante... it's like she is seeking the fame of being the poster child of as many causes by the end of 2018 as she can possibly obtain.