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Originally Posted by Vicky.

There again, have been no real studies on this either. There was one which checked peoples timings as they got further into transition (and they did go down over time), but did not compare against actual female controls, so is pretty useless. And it was only done on 7 people too.

There was also this

http://www.eje-online.org/content/151/4/425.short



IMO it goes without saying that average male physiology gives male people a large advantage though surely. And lets be honest, laurels physiology is way above average, even for men.

And given there have not actually been any studies into it, its hugely unfair to just chuck them in with the women. I am not saying they cannot compete if they want to, but the likes of this guy...he could compete with the men. Infact, transwomen should compete with men because of biological advantage, and also transmen should compete with men if they are actually transitioning(as they are doping). Neither transperson would actually have any advantage over men so it should not matter to men at all. I would think though, that competing would suddenly be less attractive if transwomen could not compete against women, as they would not be basically guaranteed a high placing and in all likelihood, would be very low down the male rankings. If they don;t want to do this, then they don't compete. People can't compete at professional level for a variety of reasons...I could not compete as I am not fit enough

Oh, there are also male people fighting female people in MMA. And half of Irans womens football team is male (I suspect there are so many transwomen there, as being gay is illegal. Being gay while saying you are a woman is fine though). There are more, but those 2 spring to mind immediately.

Do you watch any of Joe Rogans pod casts, (he talks about lots of things but is mainly an MMA guy) He went crazy over this