[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This will be proven to be as bad as suspected. I saw the list, I was on it for a short period of time (possibly until they realised I was not a Labour party member so it was useless collecting data on me to start with)and I also saw the 'evidence files'. The 'evidence file' on me was pathetic, but it was still there. Not sure if I should report it as harassment to the police as that seems a bit..much. I kind of just laughed it off as a bunch of nutters being stupid, I didn't realise that I could actually report it to the police and since looking into it all I do see they have definitely broken the data protection act, and this has actually been led by a Labour Womens Officer..I made a thread on 'her' a while back. Wish Labour had been sensible at the time and stopped a 19 year old boy from applying for the position in the first place..given it stated in the rules that the womens officer must be a woman. Could have avoided all of this rubbish. The only thing he has done for women since gaining the post, is try to get women kicked out of the party!

Please make a complaint to the police. Don't let them get away with it. It's so not a bit much. It's a lot much. Making files and dossiers of members of the public who dare to have a conflicting view is plain scary.

Waiting on the day when someone tells me that me being a woman and not a non man is some sort of phobic. It sounds comical doesn't it? It's really not funny.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Please make a complaint to the police. Don't let them get away with it. It's so not a bit much. It's a lot much. Making files and dossiers of members of the public who dare to have a conflicting view is plain scary.

Waiting on the day when someone tells me that me being a woman and not a non man is some sort of phobic. It sounds comical doesn't it? It's really not funny.

I did report it to actionfraud at the time, as apparently thats where online crimes need to be logged. I started getting rape and death threats sent to my private facebook account because I am a 'bigot' and 'transmisogynistic' (made up word) and that ffs. It was horrendous. I did end up ringing the local police station who reckoned they could log it but they cannot actually do anything unless the threats are carried out. Which is ****ing lovely isn't it. They can do something once I am raped and murdered?! Luckily the threats did stop pretty much as soon as they started, but I am still really really edgy incase someone does show up in my life who wants to harm me because I believe biology is relevant. It would not bother me as much if there was just me and Gavin here. But the kids live here too.

[Robertocarlo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Politics in the UK is a mess, there is no party that represents me and I believe it is the same for many, we don't have a choice it's left or right and that's it, the liberals are not to be trusted as they will cosy up with whichever side gets into power if they have a sniff at being in coalition, I have been mocked on here previously for being a centrist but that is the place to be.

To be honest I was happiest during the Tony Blair years and just wish he wasn't so tarnished by the Iraq War. I hate Brexit and he'd have been a brilliant leader for the anti-Brexit cause but alas he's poison to most.

I do think Corbyn would be good for the UK but it's his age that's against him now. I loath the privatisation of national assets and any government that would renationalise utilities and Railways gets my vote.

[Robertocarlo]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I did report it to actionfraud at the time, as apparently thats where online crimes need to be logged. I started getting rape and death threats sent to my private facebook account because I am a 'bigot' and 'transmisogynistic' (made up word) and that ffs. It was horrendous. I did end up ringing the local police station who reckoned they could log it but they cannot actually do anything unless the threats are carried out. Which is ****ing lovely isn't it. They can do something once I am raped and murdered?! Luckily the threats did stop pretty much as soon as they started, but I am still really really edgy incase someone does show up in my life who wants to harm me because I believe biology is relevant. It would not bother me as much if there was just me and Gavin here. But the kids live here too.

I feel really sorry for your plight and yes it's ridiculous that the Police will ONLY act once you're harmed. It's much the same with battered wives it seems as well?!

I agree to earlier comments about not being able to vote as nobody fits in with your views and concerns. At the moment in the UK politics is basically *****ed and it may take ten years before we see new parties emerge that we can actually vote for. In the meantime I am, I confess, a reluctant Labour voter and remainer until something better comes along.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Robertocarlo

To be honest I was happiest during the Tony Blair years and just wish he wasn't so tarnished by the Iraq War. I hate Brexit and he'd have been a brilliant leader for the anti-Brexit cause but alas he's poison to most.

I do think Corbyn would be good for the UK but it's his age that's against him now. I loath the privatisation of national assets and any government that would renationalise utilities and Railways gets my vote.

I just don't think it would happen

[Kizzy]

Keeping dossiers on people is hideous and something that has always worried me, I'm prob on some blacklist somewhere too or maybe that's just antiestablishment paranoia? mind you following the miners strike we know it's a 'thing' and seemingly not a strictly right wing construct :/

I would like to think that following the death of Jo Cox any online threats of violence are given the gravitas they would be if made in person, which hopefully deters many keyboard warriors from making such comments any longer.

I still have faith in nationalisation as a construct that will aid the countries recovery from austerity and it is only that which keeps me tied to Corbyn following such issues as this.

[user104658]

I think a big part of the issue with deterring online threats are that so MANY are made that it would be impossible to punish offenders in any meaningful way... at least with traditional punishments.

So, I say make a new punishment for it: Internet exile. Temporarily ban repeat offenders from having broadband internet or mobile data contracts. Might be difficult to stop them having access completely (pay-as-you go mobile internet, etc) but honestly, I think if people were regularly having their "proper" internet access affected, then it would prompt people to think much harder about what they post.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Robertocarlo

To be honest I was happiest during the Tony Blair years and just wish he wasn't so tarnished by the Iraq War. I hate Brexit and he'd have been a brilliant leader for the anti-Brexit cause but alas he's poison to most.

I do think Corbyn would be good for the UK but it's his age that's against him now. I loath the privatisation of national assets and any government that would renationalise utilities and Railways gets my vote.

Do you remember British Rail?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think a big part of the issue with deterring online threats are that so MANY are made that it would be impossible to punish offenders in any meaningful way... at least with traditional punishments.

So, I say make a new punishment for it: Internet exile. Temporarily ban repeat offenders from having broadband internet or mobile data contracts. Might be difficult to stop them having access completely (pay-as-you go mobile internet, etc) but honestly, I think if people were regularly having their "proper" internet access affected, then it would prompt people to think much harder about what they post.

Yeah this sounds a possible idea.

Yes people would find ways of getting around it, I mean if my net was restricted i could just go on my mobile and use data, but it would be a pain in the arse to HAVE to do that. Not sure how possible this would be in practise though, they would have to get all ISPs to agree to it.

They do need to do something about it..I recieve threats fairly often on twitter but just write them off as twitter is a cesspit and it doesn't really bother me as my twitter is pretty anonymous. I have absolutely no idea how they linked my personal facebook though. They are in different names, on different email addresses and everything

But people really do need some kind of punishment for sending threats to others like. its beyond a joke

If I was famous, then the people sending these threats would be locked up by now.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Thank God we have the SNP in Scotland and Ruth to police them

[Oliver_W]

I've said it before but imo Ruth is the best party leader in the UK

[Robertocarlo]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Do you remember British Rail?

Yes I do but remember too BR was deliberately underfunded by the government until it collapsed giving the Tories the excuse to privatise it. Any profits made by BR were siphoned off by government. The government deliberately failed to invest in BR. There are two sides to the BR debate.

I have travelled on continental railways more recently Belgian several times and that's nationalised. The trains are clean, mostly double deckers and have never seen anyone having the stand even in rush hour and is affordable and dirt cheap. That's the other side of a nationalised railway system.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Robertocarlo

Yes I do but remember too BR was deliberately underfunded by the government until it collapsed giving the Tories the excuse to privatise it. Any profits made by BR were siphoned off by government. The government deliberately failed to invest in BR. There are two sides to the BR debate.

I have travelled on continental railways more recently Belgian several times and that's nationalised. The trains are clean, mostly double deckers and have never seen anyone having the stand even in rush hour and is affordable and dirt cheap. That's the other side of a nationalised railway system.

Excellent post!