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Originally Posted by Kizzy

I haven't dismissed them, all I have suggested is that yours is an emotive response due to your life. Your perspective will be more one sided due to the impact on your community.

There will be though another man sat a few miles away who has had similar experiences to you aside from the fact he is catholic and all the trauma he has suffered at the hands of unionists?.... He may know victims young and old of the troubles, we shouldn't just whitewash those away because you don't feel that the groups who created tragedy in his life weren't as bad.

I appreciate too that you feel betrayed that a British MP shared a platform with the IRA, yet reading of plans for the repartition of Northern Ireland I wonder if this wasn't to highlight the urgency needed to stave of what would effectively be a full blown civil war?

Had the IRA not been willing to commit to peace wouldn't they have just killed Corbyn as a representative of the unionist establishment?

See, you really don't listen, do you?
I have whitewashed nothing away, I will repeat that elsewhere on this forum, as well as in this thread, I have condemned the actions of the Loyalist Para's, my argument was that they didn't deliberately and consistently target civilians including young children in mass bomb atrocities. How many times have I said it, what is it about that that you don't get?

You also ignore that I am Catholic myself and not unionist, I am and always have been SDLP, like my father before me. You have no idea how many Catholics hate the IRA with a passion. They killed and maimed as many Catholics as they did Protestants.

The IRA committed to peace because they were running out of new recruitments and materials for mass murder and most of their own side had long turned vehemently against them. They knew the government would never give in to their demands against what the majority of people in N.Ireland wanted and voted for democratically. The Gov. had stood firm against them for 30 years and they knew their time was up. They had nowhere else to go.

You also don't seem to get that I talk about Corbyn and the IRA because that is who he supported. If he had supported the Loyalist Paramiltaries instead I'd be talking about Corbyn and how he supported those murderers, but as he didn't, they are not the topic. You keep bringing other organizations up to avert the discussion away from Corbyn and the IRA.

The IRA used Corbyn as a useful mp with known anti British sentiments (along with his great friend McDonnell) who wanted the same as they did - a United Ireland against the will of the majority of the people.

This says it well:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/0...t-for-the-ira/

It cannot be said too often that there is nothing intrinsically objectionable about supporting the idea of a united Ireland. But if you did – or still do – support that goal you had a choice. You could ally yourself with the SDLP or you could chum around with Sinn Fein and the IRA. The choice mattered because it was a choice between decency and indecency, between constitutional politics and paramilitary politics. Corbyn, like his Shadow Chancellor, made his choice and chose indecency.

There is no room for doubt about this and no place for after-the-fact reinterpretations of Corbyn’s ‘role’ in the Irish peace process. That role was limited to being a cheerleader for and enabler of the Republican movement. No-one who was seriously interested in peace in the 1980s spoke at Troops Out rallies. The best that could be said of those people was that they wanted ‘peace’ on the IRA’s terms.

I and others in N. Ireland knew of Corbyn in the 80's and 90's, I suspect before many here ever heard of him. N. Ireland was a surprisingly small place when it came down to who was who in the Troubles. He, (and his great friend McDonnell) along with others were well known avid IRA supporters. Some people not believing it or not caring won’t change that. I forgot he even existed until he came to the fore as a future PM, and the memories of him came rushing back.
I have no interest in politics in general, just N. Ireland politics, and had never posted in any of the serious debate political threads in all the time I have been a member here, not even during any elections and not during Brexit. I’m pretty uninformed about all that. Whether a Conservative or Labour Gov. was in power has never made one iota of difference to my life. So really, why would I out of the blue start posting about Corbyn and his IRA affiliations?

Like Ammi wisely said:

because he’s lived it and because he’s lived Jeremy’s name being attached in support of what he’s lived through…

That's it, and the hero worship of the man quite naturally makes me sick. The thought of such a man becoming the PM makes me sick and I really don't believe he would be up to the job. Corbyn's forte has always been in opposition to this or that, never in charge; always railing against something or other to boost his morale and self importance but never in the dangerous position of the front line himsef. Be careful what you wish for.