[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Riley.

I don't get this either. How can you feel European? You don't see Canadian's saying they feel American as Canada is in North America, or Russians calling themselves Eurasians.

Easy to feel European. Basically, be proud of values and achievements of the western civilisation, overwhelmingly created in Europe.

[MTVN]

Seems a bit strange to feel proud of being European but treat British patriotism with disdain though, we've always been one of the most important countries in Europe

I don't really get why the fact that nationalists use the flag means that people don't want to be patriotic either. If anything you are letting extremists have a monopoly on patriotism by doing that and anyway it's not all about flag waving and chest beating, it's about appreciating and enjoying the place that you were born, raised and have probably spent most of your life in

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Withano

?

well unless you specify what you mean

its open to each member to decide what you mean by patriotic

thus

meaningless

[Cal.]

Somewhat. I love this country and I love living here!

[Withano]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well unless you specify what you mean

its open to each member to decide what you mean by patriotic

thus

meaningless

That was what I was more interested to see, whether people saw themselves as patriotic with their interpretation of the word.

[Kazanne]

I am proud of my country,It may not be perfect,but it's a great place to live,we have much more than some other countries,There are things that need changing that would make it better,but compared to some it's definately Great Britain, Those that aren't proud and happy to be here or think it's a ****hole should maybe go on to pastures new.

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Riley.

I don't get this either. How can you feel European? You don't see Canadian's saying they feel American as Canada is in North America, or Russians calling themselves Eurasians.

The culture mainly.

[Underscore]

Also I've got roots in multiple places so I've drawn culture from all over Europe.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Seems a bit strange to feel proud of being European but treat British patriotism with disdain though, we've always been one of the most important countries in Europe

Sometimes one country can be too limiting with its so-called national interests and hang-ups. I have roots in more than one country and have dual citizenship. I love a lot about Britain, but also detest a lot, especially since Brexit.

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Sometimes one country can be too limiting with its so-called national interests and hang-ups. I have roots in more than one country and have dual citizenship. I love a lot about Britain, but also detest a lot, especially since Brexit.

This sums it up basically.

[odd sock]

Proud to be English. Traced my family tree back to the early 1600's, they originally mainly came from Cornwall and moved to London in the 1830's, was fascinating to see what these people went through and the changes they saw, really gave me a sense of belonging. Bit unsure what the future holds, for our once great country but still proud of my roots.

[TomC]

Not in the least for the UK. Scotland, yes.

[TomC]

I actually find the difference between Scottish and English patriotism quite fascinating.

I read an article that said 'Englishness' has been claimed by the far right, which I found interesting.

[Mystic Mock]

I'm not fanatical but I am patriotic and want us to be the best nation that we can be, and I do get extremely bothered when we don't reach those heights (which is nearly all of the time I guess) but yes I love this country, but not to the point where I'm blinded by it, and not to the point where I can't appreciate what other countries have to offer either.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I don't know what is wrong with patriotic...we have a great country, its pretty ****ed politically and economically but fundamentally we have so much freedom. Its unfortunate that the St Georges flag has been hijacked by people like the EDL and so now has very negative connotations.

Having said all that, I'm not a staunch patriot.....but come for Manchester I am most definitely Manc and Proud

Oh I can be extreme with City patriotism (if that's even a term) anyone comes for Birmingham or the Brummie accent and I do get very defensive.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Although I would say I'm British I wouldn't really say English.

'Britishness' is a totally false construct IMO.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Greg!

I am patriotic for SCOTLAND. Not the flop UK

[Cherie]

English people are just weird, a lot seem to be ashamed of their country that most people want to come to

[Northern Monkey]

Never really think about it but Yes i’d say i am patriotic.Always happy to come back to these green and pleasant lands after being abroad.Love the food,The seaside destinations,The history is cool,Not a massive monarchist but i like that we have them and Buckingham Palace etc,Can’t moan about the weather Atleast it’s not extreme.Will support England in tournaments but will also support other British teams or sports people if i ever watch any sports.
Plus my DNA tells me i’m almost 90% English so this country is in my DNA
We live in one of the best countries in the world to live.Yes it might not be the most exciting holiday destination or the best weather but it’s a good place to live.It could be worse,It could be Syria.We’re lucky.

God save the Queen

[Crimson Dynamo]

Driving through the heart of Scotland as i did last weekend its hard not to be patriotic

All the cleared valleys and hillsides that once had thriving communities - burned, destroyed and the occupants shipped off to the colonies never to see their homeland again - and for why - to let sheep on and make a few landowners even richer

[Cherie]

I also find it a bit odd that some people associate flying the English flag with far right groups, the IRA used the Irish flag at their funerals, the Irish didn't let that get in the way of retaining their flag, during the World Cup and the Euros I see all sorts of flags flying from windows, Greek, Italian, Spanish, no one points at them or calls them chavs, but if an English person flys their flag they are looked down on by some

[Crimson Dynamo]

I am patriotic about all the British teams in the world cup and support them almost as much as Scotland ( and that includes Eireland)


I even support England in a sort of "as long as they dont do something daft like win the tournament" sort of thing

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I am patriotic about all the British teams in the world cup and support them almost as much as Scotland ( and that includes Eireland)


I even support England in a sort of "as long as they dont do something daft like win the tournament" sort of thing

**** off, we aren't British

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

**** off, we aren't British

Yes that is why i added Ireland South to say I support them as well as the British teams

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes that is why i added Ireland South to say I support them as well as the British teams

Apology accepted