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Originally Posted by Maru

And if there is, what do you think it is?

And if there isn't, do you think there will ever be able to come to a moral consensus and if so, what do you think it would look like?


I would vote no. I think we can see it when on both sides are operating on older standards, modes of thinking. People walk into strawmans and don't know how they have become valid discourse, (i.e. PC Police, etc), because as far as they knew it, they aren't operating outside what they themselves consider to be a societal norm.

I think society, albiet in a very self-destructive way, is coming about a revolution in terms of how we treat morality amongst each other and how we handle disagreements when there is a value disparity...

Obviously it's important to know the answer to this question, but whatever the consensus is, will dictate how law enforcement, communities, and even laws are managed and created in order to uphold a societal standard. However, if that standard is in question... then it makes it rather difficult to close the argument so to speak on what constitutes moral injustices in our society, and it makes it rather difficult for us to investigate deep-rooted issues in our communities if we're stuck at the surface fighting for the right to lead that search.

Less so I would say. More and more people are out for themselves and to hell with anyone else. The young in particular have been allowed to become very self indulgent and 'entitled' including men who say they feel like women being allowed to self-indulge to the point of complete selfishness and at the expense of many other people. It is not advancement in my opinion - just playing to people's self-indulgent obsessions. It does not bode well for the future.