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user104658 · 02-03-2018, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89

The thing is people don't get permanently banned anymore (I think I'm right in saying that) so it's not really as much of an issue as it might be otherwise. And like Withano said, if a multi starts causing trouble they'll just be banned again. So I don't have a problem with it personally. Then again I've never been personally targeted by anyone on here so I can understand why other people might have a problem with it depending on who the multi is.

The Truth got permanently banned not long ago, but that whole situation is a total mess and does include a large element of mod bias. In my opinion. I know they have their own justifications for it, but it is what it is.

jet · 02-03-2018, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes confirming the facts. Alongside Brillo baiting, Cherie backing her up and making her angrier, and the usual ham-fisted LT attempts to bait.

Groundhog day

Only Brillo wasn't baiting. Your first post on here was baiting with 'So Brillo then' before she even got here, which she ignored. Brillo's first post was reasonable and the first one to respond to it was Withano. Those are the facts and it is typical of what usually happens.

Brillopad · 02-03-2018, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

I’m not the one saying the forum is a toxic place, if you find it toxic, then leave, why stay? That was the point which you once again clearly missed

I missed nothing. If anyone leaves it should be those that make it toxic - not those that feel it has deteriorated to such a level. Sounds like a case of the bullies winning. Do you think the bullies should win then?

smudgie · 02-03-2018, 11:23 AM

I sometimes wonder if someone who is new is actually somebody else, not someone banned, just someone that has been here a good while then wants to go incognito for some reason.
Same style of posting, knows too much about other members views etc yet only been here for a week or two.

They are very transparent or I am far too paranoid and need more meds.

Brillopad · 02-03-2018, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You had already replied, I saw your original reply. Then Cherie made a post complaining about me saying "it" because she had completely misunderstood part of my post. Then you edited your own post to complain about the same thing. I'm not having a go, I'm just saying... That was the exact sequence of events... The posts and edits have time stamps on them

. I don't even want to argue, I'm just sick of people not calling a spade a spade.

I re-read your post and noticed it when I hadn't before. Don't try and put it on to Cherie. You see 1and1 doesn't always equal 2 when there are other variants in an equation.

Smithy · 02-03-2018, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

I missed nothing. If anyone leaves it should be those that make it toxic - not those that feel it has deteriorated to such a level. Sounds like a case of the bullies winning. Do you think the bullies should win then?

Well who are you to decide who makes the forum toxic? If you don’t like something, leave it’s as simple as that.

Withano · 02-03-2018, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jet

Only Brillo wasn't baiting. Your first post on here was baiting with 'So Brillo then' before she even got here, which she ignored. Brillo's first post was reasonable and the first one to respond to it was Withano. Those are the facts and it is typical of what usually happens.

Brillo's first response had nothing to do with the thread, nor was it reasonable though? If that is typical of what usually happens, it should stop.

user104658 · 02-03-2018, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jet

Only Brillo wasn't baiting. Your first post on here was baiting with 'So Brillo then' before she even got here, which she ignored. Brillo's first post was reasonable and the first one to respond to it was Withano. Those are the facts and it is typical of what usually happens.

I didn't say Brillo was baiting, Brillo doesn't really bait. LT was baiting. LT is usually baiting but for some reason we love him anyway

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I was probably baiting a bit with my first post but it's relevant to the thread and it's in the spirit of calling a spade a spade. Brillo is an old member who was banned under another username and came back but it gets consistently glossed over (both by staff and by Brillo herself who, to my knowledge, has never even outright confirmed it even though its fairly common knowledge) - which is what the thread was about. People like to skirt around things because of the whole "don't talk about other members" thing and it gets boring.

Crimson Dynamo · 02-03-2018, 11:31 AM

I refuse to be a mere baiter

i demand to be a WUM, Troll AND a baiter

the holy trinity of forum scum like wot i is

user104658 · 02-03-2018, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

I re-read your post and noticed it when I hadn't before. Don't try and put it on to Cherie. You see 1and1 doesn't always equal 2 when there are other variants in an equation.

Oh well. Either way, you are both mistaken and I wasn't calling you an "it", when I said "it" I was just talking about "the whole situation".

Apologies if that was in some way unclear and caused offense.

user104658 · 02-03-2018, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I refuse to be a mere baiter

i demand to be a WUM, Troll AND a baiter

the holy trinity of forum scum like wot i is

From Google (yeah I had to Google...)

"WUM*means "Woman" or "Wind-Up Merchant" So now you know -*WUMmeans "Woman" or "Wind-Up Merchant" - don't thank us. YW!"

so sexist...

Brillopad · 02-03-2018, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Withano

Brillo's first response had nothing to do with the thread, nor was it reasonable though? If that is typical of what usually happens, it should stop.

Your constant baiting should stop. How you have the nerve to tell others how to behave when your own behaviour falls short by a long way would be comical if not so irritating. You are not bound by a different set of rules to the rest of us. So practice what you preach or shut up.

jet · 02-03-2018, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Withano

Brillo's first response had nothing to do with the thread, nor was it reasonable though? If that is typical of what usually happens, it should stop.

It was relevant as Brillo was responding to something another member said about the topic with a reasonable comment. If you didn't think it worthy enough, why did you feel the need to engage and continue to if you are so adamant about posts being rigidly on topic.

user104658 · 02-03-2018, 11:46 AM

To be fair, the thread topic is "the forum" so in theory there is no such thing as "off topic" on this thread

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They're going to delete it though, just a matter of time before a mod digs them self out of the snow for long enough to find this thread and sink into despair.

jet · 02-03-2018, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I didn't say Brillo was baiting, Brillo doesn't really bait. LT was baiting. LT is usually baiting but for some reason we love him anyway

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I was probably baiting a bit with my first post but it's relevant to the thread and it's in the spirit of calling a spade a spade. Brillo is an old member who was banned under another username and came back but it gets consistently glossed over (both by staff and by Brillo herself who, to my knowledge, has never even outright confirmed it even though its fairly common knowledge) - which is what the thread was about. People like to skirt around things because of the whole "don't talk about other members" thing and it gets boring.

But why does it matter and why does it have to be confirmed? I don't get it.

user104658 · 02-03-2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jet

But why does it matter and why does it have to be confirmed? I don't get it.

It doesn't really matter to me, I don't particularly agree with perm banning in the first place (except spammers), but it matters in the context of this thread because it was made by Parm - who generally agrees with and supports Brillo's posts - and the thread seems to have been made for him to, I guess, "call out" people that he DOESN'T like and perhaps have them re-banned.

So mostly, I was pointing out to Parm that a member he likes / supports is actually one of the "new account" members he's complaining about in his original post.

Cherie · 02-03-2018, 11:52 AM

Did someone call me silly

user104658 · 02-03-2018, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Did someone call me silly

No...

jet · 02-03-2018, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

No...

Better get to that editing button pronto, you big fibber.

Twosugars · 02-03-2018, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Only this years models that think they spk for the rest of the forum about an already established member.

lol, I'm talking about banned old members masquerading as new ones
and you instead try to restrict members' right to speak out based on the length of membership
there's nothing wrong with a precocious bright young member

saying that an established one has been brain-farting in threads

respect must be earned, the sweetest of parmnions