[Marsh.]

So basically you're moaning because TWD is more than a "omg zombies" and actually drives the stories with characters which usually includes their relationships to one another.

It seems you're the one who doesn't get character development and drama.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So basically you're moaning because TWD is more than a "omg zombies" and actually drives the stories with characters which usually includes their relationships to one another.

It seems you're the one who doesn't get character development and drama.

I don't mind Drama (I've watched Battlestar Galactica, Game Of Thrones, and Sense8 fgs) but there's a difference with those three shows, their Drama elements have/was mostly on the events that was happening in the main plot of their programmes, where as can you tell me that TWD has developed the Zombie storyline past the season 1 finale? Because if you think they have then I'd like to know.

And also if you're gonna make a dig, at least know that you can actually do character development and Drama through your actual story than just making it into all about relationships and violence like TWD seems to only know how to do.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I don't mind Drama (I've watched Battlestar Galactica, Game Of Thrones, and Sense8 fgs) but there's a difference with those three shows, their Drama elements have/was mostly on the events that was happening in the main plot of their programmes, where as can you tell me that TWD has developed the Zombie storyline past the season 1 finale? Because if you think they have then I'd like to know.

And also if you're gonna make a dig, at least know that you can actually do character development and Drama through your actual story than just making it into all about relationships and violence like TWD seems to only know how to do.

Explain the "zombie storyline"?

The apocalypse tends to be the backdrop in which they tell these heightened plots.

Not to mention any show that wants to run for more than one episode is going to need subplots and character development beyond simply sticking to the "main plot" whatever that may be.

"Relationships" are the most important part they drive the story and create the conflict fgs. If there was no relationships there'd be no "actual story".

Really you're listing stories and characters you didn't enjoy or don't like. That doesn't make them unimportant or irrelevant to the story being told.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Explain the "zombie storyline"?

The apocalypse tends to be the backdrop in which they tell these heightened plots.

Not to mention any show that wants to run for more than one episode is going to need subplots and character development beyond simply sticking to the "main plot" whatever that may be.

"Relationships" are the most important part they drive the story and create the conflict fgs. If there was no relationships there'd be no "actual story".

Really you're listing stories and characters you didn't enjoy or don't like. That doesn't make them unimportant or irrelevant to the story being told.

The Show is 8 seasons in and they haven't thought to explain who even caused the Zombie outbreak? If it was a good Zombie story that should've been explained by now.

And I never said that dynamics in a show is unimportant, in fact I quit an Anime called Last Exile recently because it lacked interesting character dynamics, but a show should be able to have both, and TWD did do poor with Lori on the character development front as she was just the love interest of Rick and Shane, she never got to be her own person and form dynamics with the rest of the survivors, that's poor writing and as I stress for the leading lady at the time is just simply not good enough.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

The Show is 8 seasons in and they haven't thought to explain who even caused the Zombie outbreak? If it was a good Zombie story that should've been explained by now.

And I never said that dynamics in a show is unimportant, in fact I quit an Anime called Last Exile recently because it lacked interesting character dynamics, but a show should be able to have both, and TWD did do poor with Lori on the character development front as she was just the love interest of Rick and Shane, she never got to be her own person and form dynamics with the rest of the survivors, that's poor writing and as I stress for the leading lady at the time is just simply not good enough.

But it's not about what started it. That's not the purpose of the show.

It wouldn't have lasted this long if it was either.

In fact the creator even said the cause is "not important to the story".

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

But it's not about what started it. That's not the purpose of the show.

It wouldn't have lasted this long if it was either.

It's about Survival first and foremost I know, and trust would be another thing, but of course what started it is more important than any character's love life on the show, or any dynamic on the show tbh as otherwise the Zombie Outbreak story has no aim and is just the same thing on repeat of people moving from one place to the next just surviving and no real aim of wanting to live a normal life again, because if the show actually had the characters wanting to find out what caused the Zombies to exist (actual Human curiosity that the show doesn't touch on) then they could try and find a cure and stop the Zombie outbreak once and for all.

Obviously the show instead seems to think that people would be all about wanting to beat each other up, or having sex with each other rather than wanting to actually try and save everybody by trying to find a cure so that they can then rebuild their lives.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It's about Survival first and foremost I know, and trust would be another thing, but of course what started it is more important than any character's love life on the show, or any dynamic on the show tbh as otherwise the Zombie Outbreak story has no aim and is just the same thing on repeat of people moving from one place to the next just surviving and no real aim of wanting to live a normal life again, because if the show actually had the characters wanting to find out what caused the Zombies to exist (actual Human curiosity that the show doesn't touch on) then they could try and find a cure and stop the Zombie outbreak once and for all.

Obviously the show instead seems to think that people would be all about wanting to beat each other up, or having sex with each other rather than wanting to actually try and save everybody by trying to find a cure so that they can then rebuild their lives.

You don't get the show at all if you think the origin of the zombie apocalypse is more important than the characters and their relationships to one another.

To quote the creator "it's not important to the story".

The zombie apocalypse is the setting, the playground for the stories.

In fact, how many times has the "omg virus we need to find a cure" been done? Cliche is an understatement.

"Otherwise it's just about people moving around surviving"
Well done, you've almost hit on what the show is about.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

But it's not about what started it. That's not the purpose of the show.

It wouldn't have lasted this long if it was either.

In fact the creator even said the cause is "not important to the story".

BIB, so they're admitting then that they just used the Zombies as a gimmick then to pull in viewers that wouldn't otherwise have watched the show? That's good to know then that The Walking Dead has got such an appropriate title.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

BIB, so they're admitting then that they just used the Zombies as a gimmick then to pull in viewers that wouldn't otherwise have watched the show? That's good to know then that The Walking Dead has got such an appropriate title.

That's like saying Eastenders is nothing but a gimmick because they haven't explained the origins of Albert Square.

They don't need to. It's the setting, the fictional universe within which the stories play out.