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Originally Posted by Kizzy

How much more convincing do you need to be?... He he been shown to be correct in all matters when it comes to intervention of this type.

I feel it's the conservatives attempts at creating a political sandstorm around this issue to mask their own involvement with regard to money laundering, the purchase of citizenship as well as questionable donations.

Hardly, he just takes the default line of opposing any action by NATO and the West

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Hardly, he just takes the default line of opposing any action by NATO and the West

And how difficult is it to go against the majority and toe the line every time and be totally vindicated every single tine?...

What do people want in a leader, one who bumbles along on the misinformation of the majority or who has the courage of convictions?

Isn't that what was admired in Churchill?....

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Not sure what makes Russia so invincible really - their economy is the size of Italy, a lot of their infrastructure is crumbling, they no longer have as much control over Eastern Europe and they don't have many friends internationally

Originally Posted by Kizzy

And how difficult is it to go against the majority and toe the line every time and be totally vindicated every single tine?...

What do people want in a leader, one who bumbles along on the misinformation of the majority or who has the courage of convictions?

Isn't that what was admired in Churchill?....

No he has not been vindicated every single time, have a look at his record on Kosovo

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Not sure what makes Russia so invincible really - their economy is the size of Italy, a lot of their infrastructure is crumbling, they no longer have as much control over Eastern Europe and they don't have many friends internationally



No he has not been vindicated every single time, have a look at his record on Kosovo

They have a gargantuan, un-invadable land mass, tens of thousands of nuclear warheads, and a large chip on their shoulder.

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

They have a gargantuan, un-invadable land mass, tens of thousands of nuclear warheads, and a large chip on their shoulder.

But there is no prospect of a nuclear war or a land invasion in this day and age, they aren't the only ways to damage a country

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Not sure what makes Russia so invincible really - their economy is the size of Italy, a lot of their infrastructure is crumbling, they no longer have as much control over Eastern Europe and they don't have many friends internationally



No he has not been vindicated every single time, have a look at his record on Kosovo

This record?...
https://www.parliament.uk/edm/2004-05/392

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

This record?...
https://www.parliament.uk/edm/2004-05/392

Yes thank you for highlighting the fact he denied genocide and tried to downplay the crimes committed in Kosovo

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yes thank you for highlighting the fact he denied genocide and tried to downplay the crimes committed in Kosovo

Haha nice try!

without any sanction of the United Nations Security Council;

the leader of a Spanish forensic team sent to Kosovo returned home, complaining angrily that he and his colleagues had become part of 'a semantic pirouette by the war propaganda machines, because we did not find one mass grave'

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Haha nice try!

without any sanction of the United Nations Security Council;

the leader of a Spanish forensic team sent to Kosovo returned home, complaining angrily that he and his colleagues had become part of 'a semantic pirouette by the war propaganda machines, because we did not find one mass grave'

All based on an article that was largely discredited

I won't say more about it because I'm aware I've gone off topic but anyone who thinks Corbyn has an unblemished record on foreign policy hasn't done enough research imo