[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Search Serious Debates threads on here because I have already posted long posts FULL of factual evidence concerning Corbyn and his 'Terrorist Friends'.

With all due respect though Red, I do not believe that ANY amount of FACTUAL evidence will change your devotion to Corbyn nor stop you defending him.

Instead, I believe that you will say that such factual evidence is NOT evidence.

Already, all the growing and weighty evidence that Corbyn is and has always been 'anti-Semitic' is being denigrated and/or denied by you and others despite it being wholly compelling to any impartial person.

I'm not devoted to Corbyn. Right now I'd say I lean much more towards Green Party politics. If you have posted factual evidence, I certainly haven't seen it. Believe it or not Kirk, I'm not on anyone's side. I just want a party who can run it better than the shambolic lot we presently have.

Ok here's one for you. Earlier today you said Corbyn was a Marxist. Every time I read this I see it as a poor attempt to make Corbyn a caricature of a communist, which he's not… anything but. Corbyn hasn't even read the Communist Manifesto and his politics are pretty average for mainstream Western Europe. I'd say he sits to the right of the Green party which is still fairly left but then anything would be left of this present government. That said, I do think McDonnel is a Marxist or at least he's got a keen interest in Marxism but he's another story.


He's never said he wants to overthrow capitalism, on the contrary he embraces it. He wants to stop this government selling off the NHS to their family members and friends . He wants to stop £billions in tax ending up in tax havens which is something this present free market allows and put that money to good use within our economy. He wants to re- nationalize a few things in an attempt to solve problems caused through mass privatization.


I'm not communist but I understand enough about communism to know that its never existed. The Communist Manifesto is full of metaphors with no absolutes. It's a theory that has had snippets taken out of it and bastardized but there's never been any such thing as a communist state for the simple reason that, according to Marx communism can't be a state because territorial borders wouldn't exist. I've never heard any suggestions of Marxist ideologies coming out of Corbyns mouth so what earned him that reputation?

What Corbyn wants is a centrally planned economy and I believe we need a centrally planned economy and so of course I like a lot of Corbyn politics. But there's quite a lot I don't like or don't believe would work and that's why I'm more Green than Red atm.