[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

#Corbyn4PM please Make UK love Russia again



Theresa May for strictly, Anton needs a flop celeb for this year i suppose

Um Russia performed a chemical attack on our country. Let's not be flippant about it.

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Its interesting reading the angry responses in The Independent Kizzy. People know the Tory's are the 'Nasty Party' and this bonfire they are building before the elections is a last ditch attempt to get rid of someone they see as a real threat.

Edited to say: Anyone who dislikes Corbyn are going to embrace and revel in this attack.

One of the things I find quite disturbing on all this is the complete denial by some people. Even the most ardent supporter should be looking at this and thinking, well is there a problem here rather than desperately trying to attack and blame the opposition. There is loyalty and then there is blind faith.

[jet]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Um Russia performed a chemical attack on our country. Let's not be flippant about it.



One of the things I find quite disturbing on all this is the complete denial by some people. Even the most ardent supporter should be looking at this and thinking, well is there a problem here rather than desperately trying to attack and blame the opposition. There is loyalty and then there is blind faith.

I find the blind faith and denial about this and other issues concerning Corbyn is becoming too far - fetched now. Nobody can be that blinkered. Is it really denial or is it a not too well - concealed secret agreement of his actions?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jet

I find the blind faith and denial about this and other issues concerning Corbyn is becoming too far - fetched now. Nobody can be that blinkered. Is it really denial or is it a not too well - concealed secret agreement of his actions?

Oh come on, you have blind faith. You put 2 and 2 together and come up with 6 if it suits your agenda.

Anyway, I still think Corbyn will win the election because the majority of people (minus the right wing) can see this for what it is.

[jet]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Oh come on, you have blind faith. You put 2 and 2 together and come up with 6 if it suits your agenda.

Anyway, I still think Corbyn will win the election because the majority of people (minus the right wing) can see this for what it is.

I have blind faith in what?

[TomToWin]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Oh come on, you have blind faith. You put 2 and 2 together and come up with 6 if it suits your agenda.

Anyway, I still think Corbyn will win the election because the majority of people (minus the right wing) can see this for what it is.

The bitter old racist wont even be in the labour party by the time an election comes round.

He is finished, nail down that coffin and call the balaclava clad IRA gun salute.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by TomToWin

The bitter old racist wont even be in the labour party by the time an election comes round.

He is finished, nail down that coffin and call the balaclava clad IRA gun salute.

I sincerely believe that too. He CANNOT survive all this.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Oh come on, you have blind faith. You put 2 and 2 together and come up with 6 if it suits your agenda.

Anyway, I still think Corbyn will win the election because the majority of people (minus the right wing) can see this for what it is.

There are plenty who would not vote for Corbyn and his ridiculous policies who are not right wing. To suggest otherwise is total denial. But if you say it enough times ...

[kirklancaster]

[QUOTE=DemolitionRed;9931856]Oh come on, you have blind faith. You put 2 and 2 together and come up with 6 if it suits your agenda.

Anyway, I still think Corbyn will win the election because the majority of people (minus the right wing) can see this for what it is.[/QUOTE]

The fact that 'The majority of people can see this for what it is' is THE very reason why Corbyn will NOT win a General Election, AND - as I will wager - will NOT even be Leader of The Labour Party when the General Election comes around.

And 'What it is' that they 'see' is irrefutable FACT after FACT after FACT surfacing about Corbyn's abhorrent Marxist, anti-Semitic, Terrorist Sympathetic, and anti-British TRUE character.

The motivation of the people/organisations who are furnishing those facts is NOT important to the 'majority' of people in this country because IT IS ONLY THOSE IRREFUTABLE FACTS themselves which MATTER to them and THIS purely because the man who those facts pertain to is the Leader of The Labour Party who has DESPERATE aspirations to become the next Prime Minister of Her Majesty's Government.

From repeated 'Tea On The Terrace' with Terrorist after Terrorist to his membership of multiple anti-Semitic extremist organisations and his gushing eulogies for various TERRORISTS, DEAD and ALIVE ones, Corbyn has exposed himself for what he is - NOT what he claims to be, and THAT person is DEFINITELY NOT the type of person that the 'majority of people' in this country WANT to see heading a Government.

My problem is; that while the 'majority' of us accept that all THE EVIDENCE of all these damning facts which are now being revealed about Comrade Jeremy (when ADDED to his own well-documented actions and speeches in favour and support of terrorist and other highly 'DUBIOUS' organisations) are ENOUGH to INDICT Corbyn - the more extreme and fanatical Corbyn supporters WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT THERE IS EVEN A 'PRIMA FACIE' CASE.

And THAT is dangerously worrying when such a refusal FLIES IN THE FACE OF ALL THE EVIDENCE.

[TomToWin]

[QUOTE=kirklancaster;9932613]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Oh come on, you have blind faith. You put 2 and 2 together and come up with 6 if it suits your agenda.

Anyway, I still think Corbyn will win the election because the majority of people (minus the right wing) can see this for what it is.[/QUOTE]

The fact that 'The majority of people can see this for what it is' is THE very reason why Corbyn will NOT win a General Election, AND - as I will wager - will NOT even be Leader of The Labour Party when the General Election comes around.

And 'What it is' that they 'see' is irrefutable FACT after FACT after FACT surfacing about Corbyn's abhorrent Marxist, anti-Semitic, Terrorist Sympathetic, and anti-British TRUE character.

The motivation of the people/organisations who are furnishing those facts is NOT important to the 'majority' of people in this country because IT IS ONLY THOSE IRREFUTABLE FACTS themselves which MATTER to them and THIS purely because the man who those facts pertain to is the Leader of The Labour Party who has DESPERATE aspirations to become the next Prime Minister of Her Majesty's Government.

From repeated 'Tea On The Terrace' with Terrorist after Terrorist to his membership of multiple anti-Semitic extremist organisations and his gushing eulogies for various TERRORISTS, DEAD and ALIVE ones, Corbyn has exposed himself for what he is - NOT what he claims to be, and THAT person is DEFINITELY NOT the type of person that the 'majority of people' in this country WANT to see heading a Government.

My problem is; that while the 'majority' of us accept that all THE EVIDENCE of all these damning facts which are now being revealed about Comrade Jeremy (when ADDED to his own well-documented actions and speeches in favour and support of terrorist and other highly 'DUBIOUS' organisations) are ENOUGH to INDICT Corbyn - the more extreme and fanatical Corbyn supporters WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT THERE IS EVEN A 'PRIMA FACIE' CASE.

And THAT is dangerously worrying when such a refusal FLIES IN THE FACE OF ALL THE EVIDENCE.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by TomToWin

What is it then, Tom? What is this, in your mind?

[jet]

[QUOTE=kirklancaster;9932613]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Oh come on, you have blind faith. You put 2 and 2 together and come up with 6 if it suits your agenda.

Anyway, I still think Corbyn will win the election because the majority of people (minus the right wing) can see this for what it is.[/QUOTE]

The fact that 'The majority of people can see this for what it is' is THE very reason why Corbyn will NOT win a General Election, AND - as I will wager - will NOT even be Leader of The Labour Party when the General Election comes around.

And 'What it is' that they 'see' is irrefutable FACT after FACT after FACT surfacing about Corbyn's abhorrent Marxist, anti-Semitic, Terrorist Sympathetic, and anti-British TRUE character.

The motivation of the people/organisations who are furnishing those facts is NOT important to the 'majority' of people in this country because IT IS ONLY THOSE IRREFUTABLE FACTS themselves which MATTER to them and THIS purely because the man who those facts pertain to is the Leader of The Labour Party who has DESPERATE aspirations to become the next Prime Minister of Her Majesty's Government.

From repeated 'Tea On The Terrace' with Terrorist after Terrorist to his membership of multiple anti-Semitic extremist organisations and his gushing eulogies for various TERRORISTS, DEAD and ALIVE ones, Corbyn has exposed himself for what he is - NOT what he claims to be, and THAT person is DEFINITELY NOT the type of person that the 'majority of people' in this country WANT to see heading a Government.

My problem is; that while the 'majority' of us accept that all THE EVIDENCE of all these damning facts which are now being revealed about Comrade Jeremy (when ADDED to his own well-documented actions and speeches in favour and support of terrorist and other highly 'DUBIOUS' organisations) are ENOUGH to INDICT Corbyn - the more extreme and fanatical Corbyn supporters WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT THERE IS EVEN A 'PRIMA FACIE' CASE.

And THAT is dangerously worrying when such a refusal FLIES IN THE FACE OF ALL THE EVIDENCE.

Well said Kirk!

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Um Russia performed a chemical attack on our country. Let's not be flippant about it.

they didn't

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

they didn't

I think at this stage its pretty clear that it was Russia.

What I do think was possibly premature was blaming Putin.

I think there is a (small) chance it was not actually government sanctioned. And even a small chance should have stopped the (IMO) very premature finger pointing that we had going on.

Of course the biggest chance was that it was government sanctioned. But I think the response was possibly too hasty, especially considering that Putin is a crazy son of a bitch and could just declare war

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think at this stage its pretty clear that it was Russia.

What I do think was possibly premature was blaming Putin.

I think there is a (small) chance it was not actually government sanctioned. And even a small chance should have stopped the (IMO) very premature finger pointing that we had going on.

Of course the biggest chance was that it was government sanctioned. But I think the response was possibly too hasty, especially considering that Putin is a crazy son of a bitch and could just declare war

Putin said it wasn't them, if it was a military strike the ex spy would've been instantly killed

it is probably just a amateurish terrorist

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Putin said it wasn't them, if it was a military strike the ex spy would've been instantly killed

it is probably just a amateurish terrorist

1. If it was Putin, he would hardly admit it
2. If it was Russia but not Putin, Putin would not know about it so he cannot possibly say it was not Russia.

Yes I do agree, if it was just about killing the guy, it would likely have been done in a different way IMO.