[Cherie]

She is a beautiful girl, but I fail to see how she thought she could compete on a level playing field, if part of the criteria is you should your body in a swimsuit and obviously marks are awarded in this section.

It would be like a guy going into Mr Universe and refusing to show his muscles.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Lets be real here, Jaxie. You assumed it was a contradiction of her beliefs based on your incredibly narrow and short interpretation of what the hijab must mean to every single woman, including this one. You haven’t watched the video, what kind of discussion were you actually hoping for?

Oh you mean your narrow interpretation of what I am thinking. I forgot you think for me these days. Silly me.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

I dont understand why you’ve chosen me to engage in this conversation with you.

Nither of us know how this competition is judged anyway, I can’t imagine either of us having much to add past our personal opinions and preconceptions of what makes a beauty pageant winner.

Was it you or was it not who accused me of not having watched the video and therefore not a valid opinion.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Was it you or was it not who accused me of not having watched the video and therefore not a valid opinion.

You responded to a post asking whether she can win as if you were unaware. I asked if you watched it, not for your rant on it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Id need to see her in a swim suit before I can make any judgement

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Oh you mean your narrow interpretation of what I am thinking. I forgot you think for me these days. Silly me.

You realise your original post spoke for millions of people, includig the pageant contestant herself haha.

[Withano]

People get angry when you call them out for not watching the video before making their minds up. Hmm.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

You responded to a post asking whether she can win as if you were unaware. I asked if you watched it, not for your rant on it.

Don’t quote mine and I may not quote yours. If you do, judging by many of your previous responses, I likely will. Clear as I can be.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Don’t quote mine and I may not quote yours. If you do, judging by many of your previous responses, I likely will. Clear as I can be.

I’m fine with you quoting me, I was just confused why you quoted a specific post of mine to engage me in a discussion completely unrelated in the post. Its a bit weird.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

She is a beautiful girl, but I fail to see how she thought she could compete on a level playing field, if part of the criteria is you should your body in a swimsuit and obviously marks are awarded in this section.

It would be like a guy going into Mr Universe and refusing to show his muscles.

No it is not
only her hair is hidden

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Id need to see her in a swim suit before I can make any judgement

I am Sure they will do that LT

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by arista

No it is not
only her hair is hidden

And her figure. I should imagine many of the women aren’t keen to do the swimsuit bit, like a piece of meat - so why should she be let off the hook! No-one forced her to enter so she competes properly or not at all.

[Tom4784]

It's a swimsuit section, not a bikini section, She could rock up in a scuba suit if she wanted and that would probably count.

Honestly Brillo, the whole 'SHE'S CHEATING' angle is quite irrational and nonsensical. Wearing a hijab and covering up for the Swimsuit section would count against her and if you actually watched the video you'd know that she didn't come close to winning.

Someone that's covered up in a beauty competition will not win against someone that's blonde, got a body like Jessica Rabbit and isn't shy about it. A girl wearing a hijab is not at an advantage, it's a disadvantage to cover up.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

And her figure. I should imagine many of the women aren’t keen to do the swimsuit bit, like a piece of meat - so why should she be let off the hook! No-one forced her to enter so she competes properly or not at all.

If that's the case
none will Win.

The 19 year year old in USA
would do swim gear
Not sure about the 20 year old UK Lady

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's a swimsuit section, not a bikini section, She could rock up in a scuba suit if she wanted and that would probably count.

Honestly Brillo, the whole 'SHE'S CHEATING' angle is quite irrational and nonsensical. Wearing a hijab and covering up for the Swimsuit section would count against her and if you actually watched the video you'd know that she didn't come close to winning.

Someone that's covered up in a beauty competition will not win against someone that's blonde, got a body like Jessica Rabbit and isn't shy about it. A girl wearing a hijab is not at an advantage, it's a disadvantage to cover up.

That depends on whose judging it and how far political stances gets in the way.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

And her figure. I should imagine many of the women aren’t keen to do the swimsuit bit, like a piece of meat - so why should she be let off the hook! No-one forced her to enter so she competes properly or not at all.

Theres a photo of her swimsuit look alongside an explanation in the video. WHy are you still so vocal about it when you havent even watched it haha.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That depends on whose judging it and how far political stances gets in the way.

She didn't come close to winning, that's a fact that's stated in the video. I'm guessing, like I said before, someone blonde and buxom that looks good in a Bikini probably won, this contestant stood no chance by putting herself at a disadvantage by covering up.

[bots]

She is making a religious/political statement which has nothing to do with a beauty contest. I don't agree with the concept of beauty contests anyway and they are hardly mainstream events anymore so I would have thought other events would have been more appropriate

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

She is making a religious/political statement which has nothing to do with a beauty contest. I don't agree with the concept of beauty contests anyway and they are hardly mainstream events anymore so I would have thought other events would have been more appropriate

Rare Events
times have changed
The British Lady aged 20
said its a charity event.

[arista]

it appears the 20 year old UK lady Maria Mahmood (she was on bbc am, before 9AM today)
has won something being a runner up.

[Maria is now looking ahead to the semi-finals, which will be held in Newark, Nottinghamshire, in July. ]

from DM link
first post

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

No it is not
only her hair is hidden

My point was about the swimsuit section where it says in the clip she remained covered, what's the point entering if she is not going to follow the criteria for gaining marks

[Vicky.]

Not really seeing the issue with this

But I have a bit of a problem with beauty pageants in general tbh, but its a bit offtopic so I won't go into it here

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

She didn't come close to winning, that's a fact that's stated in the video. I'm guessing, like I said before, someone blonde and buxom that looks good in a Bikini probably won, this contestant stood no chance by putting herself at a disadvantage by covering up.

The swimsuit round is optional and can even be done by providing a photo for the judges, so it makes no difference.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Not really seeing the issue with this

But I have a bit of a problem with beauty pageants in general tbh, but its a bit offtopic so I won't go into it here

same

[arista]

Its all positive
Not like the Old Days

It must inspire kids, at least Vicky?

Charity events now
and getting on mainstream TV news