[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

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i hope Negan tells Jadis the truth that he didn't have the intentions of killing the scavengers, and they go have revenge on Simon, could be a good plot twist to see Negan changing into a good guy, cause he isn't a villain, but i reckon he would make a good leader for Hilltop, Kingdom, Alexandria rather than Rick, who is broken now, and broken people get reckless

Spoiler:

Negan will probably become a hero which will make the show look ridiculous as someone that came into the show like he did should not be redeemed imo.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

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Negan will probably become a hero which will make the show look ridiculous as someone that came into the show like he did should not be redeemed imo.

Honestly if his character is redeemed I'm done with it

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Honestly if his character is redeemed I'm done with it

The show does seem to have a love affair with him and we all have probably seen shows where to keep a character around they change their personality to something that can sustain itself for more than a couple of seasons.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

The show does seem to have a love affair with him and we all have probably seen shows where to keep a character around they change their personality to something that can sustain itself for more than a couple of seasons.

i am hating Eugene more at the moment, he's such a coward

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for the next episode, i've seen a teaser i think dwight is a goner since Negan approached him and said surprised to see me, i hope so cause i've got plenty of surprises, he knows that dwight had been playing both sides

[Ant.]

regarding 8x15:

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Ok I actually enjoyed this! I was a tad sad because a YouTube title ruined Simon's death despite the fact the episode hadn't even aired in the USA when I first saw it but Simon's FANTASTIC. I never really understood the beef with Negan (and based on everyone's reactions to the fist fight, I don't think anyone else did)

More Rosita more Rosita clocking Eugene I would've been more interested in seeing Tara pairing up with Rosita because the occasional Daryl and Rosita pairups make NO sense to me. They never interact except when they're out and about. Tara and Rosita are just partners in a similar way to Rick and Daryl! And given Tara is the only surviving member of GREAT besides Eugene and Rosita, she's arguably the closest person to Eugene bar Rosita so I certainly would've liked to see how she'd deal with it rather than Daryl who has like, never interacted with Eugene

Josh McDermitt's acting is great as usual but my god I hate Eugene (although with Eugene's character, both those points go hand in hand). Fingers crossed Eugene hearing Rosita drag him will encourage him to **** up the bullet supply (which is why I think he's brought Gabriel back into the production)

Also a few small questions were answered in this episode! Like we found out Simon killed the boys/men at Oceanside (which was a given anyway but still nice and iterates how Negan held/has the view of people being a resource, even if it's been challenged recently)
Oh and Gabriel's illness. While not an official diagnosis, I'm glad they sorta addressed how it was actually due to mishandling of guts and isn't in his blood, hence why he wasn't killed off like the redshirts people at Hilltop
Laura!! I was very confused as to who was in the car with Negan when we didnt see Laura pop up but then she did and it made sense for Negan to lead Dwight on, so he'd send the wrong details to the Hilltop. Although Rick and Michonne seemed apprehensive regarding the apparent plan so god knows if they'll do as Dwight advised

I'm hoping Oceanside save the day. I mean, they have to - Aaron, a somewhat main character, has essentially been MIA for half a season trying to get them to fight, and given how the Saviors wont expect them and Oceanside don't know about the plan, they'll be able to ambush them

Ok im done here because I'm just noticing obvious details rather than giving opinions but Im SO glad this war business is almost over

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

regarding 8x15:

Spoiler:

Ok I actually enjoyed this! I was a tad sad because a YouTube title ruined Simon's death despite the fact the episode hadn't even aired in the USA when I first saw it but Simon's FANTASTIC. I never really understood the beef with Negan (and based on everyone's reactions to the fist fight, I don't think anyone else did)

More Rosita more Rosita clocking Eugene I would've been more interested in seeing Tara pairing up with Rosita because the occasional Daryl and Rosita pairups make NO sense to me. They never interact except when they're out and about. Tara and Rosita are just partners in a similar way to Rick and Daryl! And given Tara is the only surviving member of GREAT besides Eugene and Rosita, she's arguably the closest person to Eugene bar Rosita so I certainly would've liked to see how she'd deal with it rather than Daryl who has like, never interacted with Eugene

Josh McDermitt's acting is great as usual but my god I hate Eugene (although with Eugene's character, both those points go hand in hand). Fingers crossed Eugene hearing Rosita drag him will encourage him to **** up the bullet supply (which is why I think he's brought Gabriel back into the production)

Also a few small questions were answered in this episode! Like we found out Simon killed the boys/men at Oceanside (which was a given anyway but still nice and iterates how Negan held/has the view of people being a resource, even if it's been challenged recently)
Oh and Gabriel's illness. While not an official diagnosis, I'm glad they sorta addressed how it was actually due to mishandling of guts and isn't in his blood, hence why he wasn't killed off like the redshirts people at Hilltop
Laura!! I was very confused as to who was in the car with Negan when we didnt see Laura pop up but then she did and it made sense for Negan to lead Dwight on, so he'd send the wrong details to the Hilltop. Although Rick and Michonne seemed apprehensive regarding the apparent plan so god knows if they'll do as Dwight advised

I'm hoping Oceanside save the day. I mean, they have to - Aaron, a somewhat main character, has essentially been MIA for half a season trying to get them to fight, and given how the Saviors wont expect them and Oceanside don't know about the plan, they'll be able to ambush them

Ok im done here because I'm just noticing obvious details rather than giving opinions but Im SO glad this war business is almost over

Spoiler:

Eugene now doesn't care anymore about Rick's group how Rosita insulted him, i think some of the militia or maggie/rick group might die in next week's finale, oceanside could save them, Negan was so badass and Laura exposed Dwight and now Dwight did send the fake plan to Rick, so strategically this is good for Negan and the saviors, i think it will end with Rick winning, most of the saviors dead and Negan captured, so Negan can also be in season 9, the foreshadowing of Negan seeing that helikopter flying over the junkyard, i can see Negan giving that information to Rick in next season if he is in captivity

[Amy Jade]

I liked this episode, especially Rosita dragging Eugene. He deserves it. I wish Simon had stuck around longer because I found him far more interesting than Negan.

One scene bothered me though. Eugene hiding under ashes and seconds later Rosita and Daryl go past and he has somehow managed to find tarpaulin and pile the ashes on top of himself perfectly without even a dust cloud? Obviously the show is about zombies so you have to suspend belief but I cringed at how badly written that was.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

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Eugene now doesn't care anymore about Rick's group how Rosita insulted him, i think some of the militia or maggie/rick group might die in next week's finale, oceanside could save them, Negan was so badass and Laura exposed Dwight and now Dwight did send the fake plan to Rick, so strategically this is good for Negan and the saviors, i think it will end with Rick winning, most of the saviors dead and Negan captured, so Negan can also be in season 9, the foreshadowing of Negan seeing that helikopter flying over the junkyard, i can see Negan giving that information to Rick in next season if he is in captivity

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Good point. That helicopter has to be brought up next season or season 10, and I can only wonde WHAT. I doubt Jadis would tell anyone willy nilly, so we're kinda relying on Negan to leak that information

Eugene himself did recognise hat he did what he did to save Rosita and has since been doing what he's done since to survive, but Eugene's in a very powerful position. The quality of the bullets has been raised now, and yes the purpose of Eugene creating bullets was to get him away from Rick and Co and make him a Savior, but what was the point of that if it wasn't to have some pay-off? Especially with his abilities being brought up and required over a season after being captured for just that/2 seasons after his ability to make bullets was established? Eugene's ability to make bullets wasn't even mentioned in 7b or 7a and was only brought up halfway through 8b)
I definitely think Eugene's gonna switch sides now. And it'd just make sense narratively, he's always had this issue of doing what's right for the people around him and doing what's right for himself, I believe he's finally gonna realise he has to stop being selfish as Rosita drilled in his head

eh I'm just rambling but i'm just praying they use the next episode to round off and establish some good Eugene development by getting him back on Rick's side (and us back on his side bc Eugene has been greatly unlikeable even if Josh's acting is FANTASTIC) on his own terms rather than Rick taking him prisoner alongside Negan

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I liked this episode, especially Rosita dragging Eugene. He deserves it. I wish Simon had stuck around longer because I found him far more interesting than Negan.

One scene bothered me though. Eugene hiding under ashes and seconds later Rosita and Daryl go past and he has somehow managed to find tarpaulin and pile the ashes on top of himself perfectly without even a dust cloud? Obviously the show is about zombies so you have to suspend belief but I cringed at how badly written that was.

It was ridiculous! And yes, we're watching a show were the dead re-animate and the whatnot, but we should only suspend our belief for things like 'why the grass hasn't grown' because well, the length of grass can't exactly be controlled, and I'd imagine it'd be HEFTY to CGI in all the long grass

But we're meant to believe Eugene somehow got that well hidden when he wasn't even that far ahead of Rosita? If they just had him hide behind a car I'd excuse it but Eugene got way too hidden in such a short space of time
And yeah I guess it doesn't matter in the long-run but come on, if we want to believe the dead are walking again we should at least believe things that should be possible in real life

[Niamh.]

Agree about Eugene and his hiding place although I still instantly knew he was under there anyway

It was a decent episode though all in all

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I'm gonna need the only two cute characters left on the show (Dwight and Jadis) to become besties and start their own community and leave everyone else to ROT.

*goes to see if this is a fanfiction*

The only way the show can continue!

[Jordan.]

My anxiety over Dwight's well-being is at an all time high

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

My anxiety over Dwight's well-being is at an all time high

He'll survive dw.


I know someone must die in the next ep though, but I genuinely have no idea who it will be

[Ammi]

...my anxiety over Dwight’s well-being is at an all time high as well, Jordan...it was hard to get through that episode because it was so tense for him...I’m not sure how realistic it is to hope he survives in the finale.....I hope he does...


...Eugene successfully hiding under the ashes though was just silly I thought...he has no sense of survival in that context and yet he ‘fooled’ two such prominent group survivor characters so easily...’he couldn’t have got far’ as they walk off in the distance but didn’t think of poking about in the ashes at all...hmmmm, no...just silly...


...maybe Eugene isn’t working for Negan...(...and also why he needed to escape and go back..)...maybe he is doing something to the bullets to harm Negan and his people...I don’t know what can be done with bullets but maybe Eugene is sabotaging them in some way...

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

He'll survive dw.


I know someone must die in the next ep though, but I genuinely have no idea who it will be

i think Morgan and from the saviors probably Arat, Laura

[Nicky91]

i personally hope Rick dies, cause i can't stand him

[Cherie]

One of the better episodes for a while, good tension building and a satisfying death

The story line is building for Daryl to save Dwight I feel

[Nicky91]

Daryl saving Dwight, that would really shock me, cause Daryl doesn't care about anyone

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...my anxiety over Dwight’s well-being is at an all time high as well, Jordan...it was hard to get through that episode because it was so tense for him...I’m not sure how realistic it is to hope he survives in the finale.....I hope he does...


...Eugene successfully hiding under the ashes though was just silly I thought...he has no sense of survival in that context and yet he ‘fooled’ two such prominent group survivor characters so easily...’he couldn’t have got far’ as they walk off in the distance but didn’t think of poking about in the ashes at all...hmmmm, no...just silly...


...maybe Eugene isn’t working for Negan...(...and also why he needed to escape and go back..)...maybe he is doing something to the bullets to harm Negan and his people...I don’t know what can be done with bullets but maybe Eugene is sabotaging them in some way...

I don't think so, i think he's gone full rat. He was the one who suggested infecting all the hilltop group and managed to kill loads of them

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Daryl saving Dwight, that would really shock me, cause Daryl doesn't care about anyone

I sometimes think you're watching a different show to everyone else Nicky Daryl is incredibly loyal to his core group, Rick, Michonne, Carol etc. He doesn't like Dwight because they have history

[Cal.]

Eugene executed after sabotaging The Saviors with the bullets I bloody reckon

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i personally hope Rick dies, cause i can't stand him

A dirty mess

[Ant.]

I'm praying we're getting a Team Family Death-Free finale, similar to 4x16 and 5x16, but given it's a war I'm doubting that. Although with us recently losing Carl, part of me has faith Rick & Co. are somewhat safe (although it's not like that'd stop them from killing someone off)

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

I'm praying we're getting a Team Family Death-Free finale, similar to 4x16 and 5x16, but given it's a war I'm doubting that. Although with us recently losing Carl, part of me has faith Rick & Co. are somewhat safe (although it's not like that'd stop them from killing someone off)

yes true, but still i can see a character like Morgan dying now, especially since we've seen him have those weird hallucinations


but also Rick had a vision at the start of season 8 and Negan was in that vision either

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i am wondering could this vision have been a hint at what the future is going to be like, since Rick is getting that same grey beard more and more now either

[Babayaro.]

That was Carl's vision/fantasy/dream, not Rick's.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

That was Carl's vision/fantasy/dream, not Rick's.

we didn't see Carl in that vision though