[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There could be a promiscuous gay version of Cinderella, except instead of a glass slipper, the Prince swabs a sample of cum from his arsehole and goes on a quest to match the DNA.

Bloody hell

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There could be a promiscuous gay version of Cinderella, except instead of a glass slipper, the Prince swabs a sample of cum from his arsehole and goes on a quest to match the DNA.

Sullen Girl: The Cinderella Story

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Sullen Girl: The Cinderella Story

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

The only reason I can think of why it would be inappropriate is if people think it would encourage kids to be gay, but surely in 2018 we've moved on from the 'being gay is a choice' way of thinking?

As was said by someone else I think there are parents who would find it difficult to explain topics relating to sexuality to a five year old. It's not necessarily an implication they'd feel the relationship inappropriate more that many parents aren't ready to talk about relationships of any kind with very young children.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by jaxie

As was said by someone else I think there are parents who would find it difficult to explain topics relating to sexuality to a five year old. It's not necessarily an implication they'd feel the relationship inappropriate more that many parents aren't ready to talk about relationships of any kind with very young children.

Rather than talking about relationships, they should make it about families - "some children have two mummies, and some have two daddies".

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Rather than talking about relationships, they should make it about families - "some children have two mummies, and some have two daddies".

That is kind of talking about relationships though.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by jaxie

That is kind of talking about relationships though.

It's all about the framing. "Timmy from playgroup has two dads", that places it in a context they can relate more to, than "the man down the road fancies other men"

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Homosexuality isn't something that should be age restricted, it's not inherently dirtier than a hetero relationship and it's not going to be in any way shape or form more explicit. You can tell a chaste love story between two people of the same sex just as well as you can tell a chaste hetero love story.

I'd be all for a gay princess but I don't think it's too likely to ever happen especially now Hollywood is learning that diversity doesn't always equal profits. At best we might get a nod to it in Frozen 2 but Elsa will never have a girlfriend, they'll just keep her on her own rather than pair her up with anyone else.

Trans issues require a more intricate story to tell, many adults don't fully understand it so to cover it in a good way for children would be difficult. I imagine Disney won't touch that hot button because they'll risk upsetting both sides of the coin. People will be mad that they included trans issues and others will be made if it's not done in the way they want it.

Having a slutty prince or princess is really not needed tbh.

...yeah really what Dezzy has said with this...sexuality isn’t an age restricted thing...the age restriction I think...is more ..(..depending on age..)...the level of a child’s understanding, which would be the same no matter what the sexuality involved...small children ‘live’ gay relationships from a very young age...it might be their own parents, another child or children at pre-school or younger primary school etc...so I think ‘early introduction’ is a good thing ...especially to prevent any prejudice and intolerance etc...’my daddy’ and ‘my papa’ for instance are just as easily explained as ‘my mommy’ and ‘my daddy’....because it’s the concept of a family unit that’s being explained...as with single parents as well...Children live different family unit dynamics, from birth they live them...so I think seeing what they live or what their friend lives ...or someone they know etc..in something like Disney..?...would be a good thing, I think....

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

ShaneJ and India Willoghby to play the Ugly Stepsisters?

...would that be stepsisters or stepcisters I wonder...

[Maru]

A Disney Movie about drag queens... I could see it.

[Maru]

Honestly, looking at older cartoons, there were a lot of subtle creepy/darker themes in them... so it's not like it's outside the ballpark for Disney to include LGBT characters (and in some ways, they've always pioneered the challenging of traditional roles). It's just doing it in a way that is not cliche'd that is actually new, unique and inventive... that would be the biggest challenge I think, to not end up with gimmicks... there is supposed to be a lot of depth to Disney stories... and that's what most people enjoy about them, is how relatable and yet how deep their storylines are... something that all children can connect with at a very basic level

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cal.

There’s a lot of talk and hope that Disney begins bringing out Disney princesses that are gay, promiscuous, transgender etc to move times along. A lot of people oppose this with the argument that this sort of thing should be kept out of children’s films and be tackled once they get older. I’m just looking for everybody on here’s opinions on it really, are you open to it or do you not think it should happen? And I’m not just talking about Disney princesses here if you want to bring other children’s films and TV into it, it’s just Disney princesses are the most obvious example.

Let children be children , they grow up soon enough,with enough pressures on them today,I don't see why the Disney films need to change at all,they are fairy stories and fantasy in the main , childhood has an innocence with it,it would be nice to keep that for as long as possible,there is plenty of time and other movie genrer's that can bring out that sort of thing. No need to bring sexuality into everything.

[lostalex]

Disney is already Gay AF, What is more gay than Disney anyway? i think it makes sense that Disney embraces how gay they are. How many straight people do you know over 12 that love Disney?

I still have crushes on Prince Eric and Aladdin.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Sullen Girl: The Cinderella Story

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Disney is already Gay AF, What is more gay than Disney anyway? i think it makes sense that Disney embraces how gay they are. How many straight people do you know over 12 that love Disney?

I still have crushes on Prince Eric and Aladdin.

I know Sullen Girl would like to get Alladin

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I know Sullen Girl would like to get Alladin

[Nicky91]

''alladin'' it's Aladdin

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

''alladin'' it's Aladdin

It was a joke Nicki and the way LT spelt it was correct for the joke,

Spoiler:

A-lad-in

[armand.kay]

here for aa disney prince on PrEP

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It was a joke Nicki and the way LT spelt it was correct for the joke,

Spoiler:

A-lad-in

Well, the double-L makes it still incorrect for the joke

[Oliver_W]

Degeneracy.

[Ninastar]

Slutty princesses/princesses with STDs? Wtf no lmao

LGBT princess/prince? Here for that. Kids need to see what it’s like to be LGBT from a young age, so that they can be more accepting when they are older

Although having said that, kids are the most accepting people in the world anyway. Ignorance is taught and can be changed. Kids from my experience just want to love everyone anyway.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jaxie

As was said by someone else I think there are parents who would find it difficult to explain topics relating to sexuality to a five year old. It's not necessarily an implication they'd feel the relationship inappropriate more that many parents aren't ready to talk about relationships of any kind with very young children.

It wouldn't be any different to any Disney film that ends with a prince and princess getting together though, it's not going to confuse them, it'll normalise the fact that some people are gay.

[user104658]

I honestly think it's interesting that Elsa could easily be gay as no interest in anyone at all was implied in the first Frozen film. Which is quite "progressive" for Disney in itself... Having a main character with ZERO hint of a romantic subplot. They potentially seem to be heading more in that direction as, despite having both a female and male lead, there was no hint of a romance storyline in Moana either, again going with a more "sibling-like" vibe.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Let children be children , they grow up soon enough,with enough pressures on them today,I don't see why the Disney films need to change at all,they are fairy stories and fantasy in the main , childhood has an innocence with it,it would be nice to keep that for as long as possible,there is plenty of time and other movie genrer's that can bring out that sort of thing. No need to bring sexuality into everything.

The bolded points are problematic.

If you don't have a problem with the prince and princess living happily ever after then you can't take issue with two princes or two princessses having that same ending. Sexuality is an issue that affects kids, some kids are gay, why can't they have representation? Why is any sexuality that isn't heterosexuality seen as not appropriate for kids? It's the idea again that being gay is seen as being this overtly sexual thing that's only suitable for older audiences and it's a terrible attitude to have.

Like I said in my first post, you can portray a chaste homosexual relationship just as well as a chaste hetero relationship.

There is no real excuse against it really, the representation can go a long way in helping children feel accepted instead of feeling like they are inherently wrong.