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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the problem with jews is the whole god bollocks, if they would just admit there is not god then its quite a decent club

good food, humour, hard working, good family stuff (minus the child mutilation) and catchy music

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I reckon they're closer to giving up the supernatural element than the other religions, to be fair. Catholics are up there too to be fair. You really do not have to believe in God at all to be Catholic.

You two should watch Simon Schama's Story of the Jews. You might understand why we're still here, despite millennia of being cast out of various countries, of being massacred and stripped of everything but our holy books, we're still here. And we still believe.