[jaxie]

I think the best actor or actress should do the role, regardless of colour.

It must be pretty devastating to audition, probably against many others of many ethnicities and then have to give it up because you aren't the right race.

This feels kind of like racial bullying and it's happening a lot lately. Turn the tables and imagine if someone said a black actress was stealing a role. The BBC had a black actress play Nancy in Oliver in a series a few years ago, did anyone say she was stealing a white woman's role? It seems a really nasty kind of precedent to start setting.

I don't think this is the right way to about tackling the issue personally. I think generally more variety of casting like the BBC Oliver is a better way.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I think the best actor or actress should do the role, regardless of colour.

It must be pretty devastating to audition, probably against many others of many ethnicities and then have to give it up because you aren't the right race.

This feels kind of like racial bullying and it's happening a lot lately. Turn the tables and imagine if someone said a black actress was stealing a role. The BBC had a black actress play Nancy in Oliver in a series a few years ago, did anyone say she was stealing a white woman's role? It seems a really nasty kind of precedent to start setting.

Unless it's James Bond ...........

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Unless it's James Bond ...........

Sorry I don't really get the reference? What would be wrong with having a black James Bond? No need to make a big deal of it, just give Idris the job right now.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Sorry I don't really get the reference? What would be wrong with having a black James Bond? No need to make a big deal of it, just give Idris the job right now.

I might actually watch james Bond if Idris played him

I just mean when it's reversed people are all up in arms about how James Bond couldn't be black etc etc I need to dig out the thread we had discussing it actually to show you what I mean

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I might actually watch james Bond if Idris played him

I just mean when it's reversed people are all up in arms about how James Bond couldn't be black etc etc I need to dig out the thread we had discussing it actually to show you what I mean

Oh gotcha. I think Idris would be a fantastic Bond and I'm not a massive fan of the genre.

That's kind of what I meant about the Nancy story too, a black girl did the part which technically wasn't really historically correct but no one made a fuss and she played the role well. If that happened more and we ignored the colour of people, colour would become less relevant.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Oh gotcha. I think Idris would be a fantastic Bond and I'm not a massive fan of the genre.

That's kind of what I meant about the Nancy story too, a black girl did the part which technically wasn't really historically correct but no one made a fuss and she played the role well. If that happened more and we ignored the colour of people, colour would become less relevant.

Yeah but James Bond doesn't necessarily have to be white, just English. I think if a role is specifically about a certain race or ethnicity then it probably should be played by someone of that race of nationality.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah but James Bond doesn't necessarily have to be white, just English. I think if a role is specifically about a certain race or ethnicity then it probably should be played by someone of that race of nationality.

Well Daniel Day Lewis played Lincoln. If the only certain ethnicities can play themselves then there will be a lot less British actors in US films and TV shows. Half the cast of the walking dead will be coming home for a start and they are going to have to stop casting Liam Neeson as an ex US special agent.

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I might actually watch james Bond if Idris played him

I just mean when it's reversed people are all up in arms about how James Bond couldn't be black etc etc I need to dig out the thread we had discussing it actually to show you what I mean

it reminds me when people were getting pissy at the fact that Rue from the Hunger Games was played by a black actress even though her race was never mentioned in the book

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by montblanc

it reminds me when people were getting pissy at the fact that Rue from the Hunger Games was played by a black actress even though her race was never mentioned in the book

Yeah that's right actually, because there's no black people in the districts? umm ok, that seems like real life..........

[MB.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I think the best actor or actress should do the role, regardless of colour.

It must be pretty devastating to audition, probably against many others of many ethnicities and then have to give it up because you aren't the right race.

This feels kind of like racial bullying and it's happening a lot lately. Turn the tables and imagine if someone said a black actress was stealing a role. The BBC had a black actress play Nancy in Oliver in a series a few years ago, did anyone say she was stealing a white woman's role? It seems a really nasty kind of precedent to start setting.

I don't think this is the right way to about tackling the issue personally. I think generally more variety of casting like the BBC Oliver is a better way.

But West Side Story is about Puerto Rican immigrants to America, whereas Oliver isn't about a story about a specific race (not to mention that black people lived in Victorian England)

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by MB.

But West Side Story is about Puerto Rican immigrants to America, whereas Oliver isn't about a story about a specific race (not to mention that black people lived in Victorian England)

Isn't acting about playing a role?

So are we going to start categorising people by race and colour, you can only do this if you are the right colour? They called that apartied in South Africa.

[Oliver_W]

Sierra Boggess is an amazing performer, to the point where the whingers should have shoved their complaints up their ass.

Originally Posted by jaxie

The BBC had a black actress play Nancy in Oliver in a series a few years ago, did anyone say she was stealing a white woman's role? It seems a really nasty kind of precedent to start setting.

Some people believe that only white people can be racist, so they probably apply the same standard to race and casting.
Anyway, there's no reason Nancy (an impoverished woman in Victorian England) couldn't have been black.