[Locke.]

A quote from the producers that seems to confirm something...

Spoiler:

This was an interview about Jon's death, and them trying to sell that he's actually dead. But to me it shows that Stannis is alive:

“In a book, you can present that kind of ambiguity,” Weiss said. “In a show, everybody sees it for what it is. It’s that rule: ‘If don’t see the body then they’re not really dead.’ Like when we cut Ned’s head off, we didn’t want a gory Monty Python geyser of blood, but we needed to see the blade enter his neck and cut out on the frame where the blade was mid-neck—it was longest discussion ever of where to cut a frame; two hours of talking about whether to cut at frame six or frame seven or frame eight. And that’s all by way of saying we needed Ned’s death to be totally unambiguous. I remember reading the book and going back and forth, like, ‘Did I miss something? Was [Ned] swapped out for somebody else?’ There’s a level of ambiguity because you’re not seeing something starkly represented. In the book, you can write around things to preserve a certain level of mystery that you have to commit to on screen.”

[Smithy]

10pm

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

slain

[Josy]

I'm done.

[Smithy]

[MTVN]

Mmm there's a lot I like and I don't like now about GoT

It's still amazing television, an amazing world and a really good hour of suspense buuutttt I really think they've timed this season terribly. It's moved along quite slowly all throughout and then they explode so many different dramatic moments on the viewer, they always seem too desperate to pace each story so that it reaches its endgame in the final ep when that isn't necessary and particularly with a story like the Dorne one it really kills it completely.

My main issue though is that I think it leaves the viewer in the dark too much. A story like Arya's nobody has known what the hell is going on with all season and we're still none the wiser. I don't really buy that she's blinded but I have no reason to suspect anything else is going to happen and that's the whole problem. And with both Stannis and Jon, we're supposed to believe they're dead but then again we obviously should be sceptical about both of them and that's a bit lame. If you have someone being run through with a sword then that should mean something. It's dumb that literally anything can be overturned because of some sort of God or some sort of magic so there's no use us speculating on any of it

So yes bottom line is that; sorry Stannis and Jon but you ****ed up. Stannis lost the loyalty of his men; the Boltons didn't, and he deserves to die and his army lose. Jon meant well but he didn't pay enough attention to the worries and fears of his own men and they turned on him because of it. They both deserve to die and godammit they should not be saved.

[Locke.]

They are the only two characters worth supporting, the show dies with them am afraid. Luckily if the show does actually leave them dead then good old GRRM will ensure that they're still alive and kicking in the books

[MTVN]

Time for a rejuvenated Lannister-Bolton-Tyrell alliance to start crushing the others. The Boltons must have a good grip on the north now and Tommen can grow into a good king who can revive the Tyrell relationship once he frees poor Margaery

[Novo]

When Stannis ends up on the Iron Throne people will be looking back at that finale in disbelieve as he lost everything and was a whisker from death

i have looked into the flames and read these comments in this thread on the finale ever

Smithy - " Omg how did he do it!! "
MTVN - " It was suppose to be mace tyrell!! "
Locke - " What!!!! what just happened!!! YESSS!!!! "
Bugsy - " I bend the knee!!!!! "
Dezzy - " Why did this happen "
Lucas - " IYA Stannis babes my king xo "
Drew - " he has done it!!!! "
Arista - " Yes. Stannis Is King. Good Show. "
Niamh - " Corr Blimey my king looks good wearing that crown <3 "
Iceman " Danyyyyyy noooooo! Stannis you bastard!! im heartbroken!! "

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by NovoBaratheon

When Stannis ends up on the Iron Throne people will be looking back at that finale in disbelieve as he lost everything and was a whisker from death

i have looked into the flames and read these comments in this thread on the finale ever

Smithy - " Omg how did he do it!! "
MTVN - " It was suppose to be mace tyrell!! "
Locke - " What!!!! what just happened!!! YESSS!!!! "
Bugsy - " I bend the knee!!!!! "
Dezzy - " Why did this happen "
Lucas - " IYA Stannis babes my king xo "
Drew - " he has done it!!!! "
Arista - " Yes. Stannis Is King. Good Show. "
Niamh - " Corr Blimey my king looks good wearing that crown <3 "
Iceman " Danyyyyyy noooooo! Stannis you bastard!! im heartbroken!! "

An even bigger misread of the flames than thinking that burning a little girl alive was a smart idea

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by NovoBaratheon

When Stannis ends up on the Iron Throne people will be looking back at that finale in disbelieve as he lost everything and was a whisker from death

i have looked into the flames and read these comments in this thread on the finale ever

Smithy - " Omg how did he do it!! "
MTVN - " It was suppose to be mace tyrell!! "
Locke - " What!!!! what just happened!!! YESSS!!!! "
Bugsy - " I bend the knee!!!!! "
Dezzy - " Why did this happen "
Lucas - " IYA Stannis babes my king xo "
Drew - " he has done it!!!! "
Arista - " Yes. Stannis Is King. Good Show. "
Niamh - " Corr Blimey my king looks good wearing that crown <3 "
Iceman " Danyyyyyy noooooo! Stannis you bastard!! im heartbroken!! "

There's no coming back after burning Shireen alive, If he's not dead now, the Onion Knight will kill him when he finds out

[Glenn.]

I'm just here for the dragons tbh

[Novo]

Shireen's sacrifice is the reason Stannis will live, The Lord Of Light does not lie.

[Tom4784]

There's no reason for Stannis to be alive anymore. His story is over and it can't go anywhere else at this point.

Jon can't stay dead, there's too many questions yet to be answered and none of the other characters have a reason to pursue them without Jon being around.

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

There's no reason for Stannis to be alive anymore. His story is over and it can't go anywhere else at this point.

There are tens of thousands of Northerners defying the Bolton's as we speak crying out for a Stark to lead them in a rebellion against the man that killed their ever so wonderful and perfect King Robb. Stannis armed with a Stark (Sansa) is the ideal fit, especially with his loyal sidekicks Pod, Brienne and Reek. This would also work with Jon, but with him having seen the White Walker army in Episode 8 it makes no sense at all for him to march to Winterfell and have more people killed.

And the Bolton banners will burn. Melisandre's visions are always correct, just not necessarily the people in them.

[Novo]

Stannis has got to go to Dragonstone to get the Obsiddian to help in the war against The Others and he needs to reclaim those boats he leant to Jon to do so

[Tom4784]

Davos can do that.

[Novo]

he doesn't have the keys

[Tom4784]

Melisandre probably has them tbh.

[Iceman]

Haha. I'm not emotionally invested into this to react like that Novo!!! I just want a good battle for the throne tbh. Whoever wins its kind of like meh. Shows over.

[Novo]

im glad you find this stressfree, i am going to spend the next year depressed wondering on the fate of my king

[Iceman]

It was lies. If Danny doesn't win yall getting banned and me and smithy are gonna pretend the show got axed before we found out

[Iceman]

I've to worry about my queen being in possibly the biggest gangbang in the history of the seven kingdoms.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Iceman

I've to worry about my queen being in possibly the biggest gangbang in the history of the seven kingdoms.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Iceman

I've to worry about my queen being in possibly the biggest gangbang in the history of the seven kingdoms.

She may be kept for the Top Leader
I glad she removed her ring,
That Dragon may rest longer
and then save her again.

The Next Series will be so Great