[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Trolling the parents of an abducted infant is pretty ******ing low.

Please post proof of abduction ,good luck with that as there is none

[Cherie]

Two things, isn't Gerry holding his sleeping son coming off the aircraft like anyone else would if it was a unique hold I could understand but its just the way most people would carry a sleeping child.

That business with the Payne guy is very disturbing, why on earth would that woman continue to holiday with someone she suspected, and have we moved on now from Madeline being involved in some tragic accident while the McCanns were at dinner and it was covered up, or Gerry and his pals were part of a paedophile ring?

and why did the dogs pick the scent of death up on Kates clothes but not Gerry's if he carried the allegedly dead Madeline away from the apartment and would her body not just wash up on the shore if she was dumped in the sea, he would have to wade out some distance to have any chance of her being carried away with the tide.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Please post proof of abduction ,good luck with that as there is none

there is the same amount of proof in what you think happened.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

So this thread is for everyone apart from me ? I think its your neck that needs winding sunbeam

The thread is open for everyone, coming in and being rude to every poster going for daring to question your posts is uncalled for.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Please post proof of abduction ,good luck with that as there is none

So you must have access to the body then, right?I presume you know exactly where it is, what the sequence of events leading up to, during, and after, her murder by parents is. You must have evidence for this, because otherwise what you have is nothing more than circumstantial.

Where did you study criminology or law? Let me guess - Harvard?

[Braden]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Everytime i watch Gerry Mccan talking about her, i see a slight smirk on his face...
Plus he looks like those e-fits. I mean this guy has to be the one...
BUT thing is... Friends of the parents have said Gerry never left the tapas resturant apart from once.,, and as we know Madeline was sleeping at that time... So i dunno... Im fifty fifty.

I thought that he sounded very rehearsed and robotic in his interview from last night.

But I don't know whether that's because he's had to recount the story so many times.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Braden

I thought that he sounded very rehearsed and robotic in his interview from last night.

But I don't know whether that's because he's had to recount the story so many times.

Well they're very likely to have prepared before a live TV interview, only natural.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

The thread is open for everyone, coming in and being rude to every poster going for daring to question your posts is uncalled for.

I came in and stated FACTS ,not my ideas or dreams ,I didnt come on a football thread talking about the offside trap ( I know nothing about that ) I came on a thread I clearly know a lot more than others do

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Two things, isn't Gerry holding his sleeping son coming off the aircraft like anyone else would if it was a unique hold I could understand but its just the way most people would carry a sleeping child.

Well the guy who we are all meant to take notice of now seems to think so.

Looks odd to me. Halving the arms strapped down like that

Apparently it was the way he had his head tilted too or something. I'm not too sure that the eureka moment was because of how he held the child tbh, more..a deja vu thing. Like, I have seen this before. then it all clicks.

Anyway I am backing out of the thread again now because I feel I have made my views clear and it just seems to be getting a bit silly now.

Have fun

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I came in and stated FACTS ,not my ideas or dreams ,I didnt come on a football thread talking about the offside trap ( I know nothing about that ) I came on a thread I clearly know a lot more than others do

So you are saying police are letting the McCanns get away with murder? and they are doing this because?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I came in and stated FACTS ,not my ideas or dreams ,I didnt come on a football thread talking about the offside trap ( I know nothing about that ) I came on a thread I clearly know a lot more than others do

Which, like I said, is no reason to patronise other posters about.

Call Scotland Yard everyone, they've wasted six years. All they had to do was get TiBB's Chuff me dizzy on the case, she solved it with her experience of holidaying in Portugal, youtube videos, twitter trolling and general obnoxious attitude.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Braden

I thought that he sounded very rehearsed and robotic in his interview from last night.

But I don't know whether that's because he's had to recount the story so many times.

We have had a body language expert on one of our groups a couple of years ago and he was baffled how they still walk free, IF I was an optimist ( which Im not) I would hope that Scotland Yard had spent a few Łs of the Ł6m (Ł6m while pensioners will stand in food banks lines to eat this winter) they have thrown at Mcs into hiring one to watch the show as they have trapped others this way (Tracey Andrews for one) but these are the Golden McCanns so Im not building my hopes up

[Z]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I came in and stated FACTS ,not my ideas or dreams ,I didnt come on a football thread talking about the offside trap ( I know nothing about that ) I came on a thread I clearly know a lot more than others do

But you told people not to comment on things they know nothing about... that's very confrontational. We've all been reminded of this case because of the program last night. It's great that you are well informed about the case and your opinions are valued in here because you say you've spent the last 6 years researching it; but you can't just tell everyone else to shut up because they don't know as much as you... this is the debates and news forum.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Zee

But you told people not to comment on things they know nothing about... that's very confrontational. We've all been reminded of this case because of the program last night. It's great that you are well informed about the case and your opinions are valued in here because you say you've spent the last 6 years researching it; but you can't just tell everyone else to shut up because they don't know as much as you... this is the debates and news forum.

Because this case is something I know a lot about ,and if you care to look back certain posters dived straight on my back when I arrived ,I have NEVER told anyone to shut up, nor would I

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well the guy who we are all meant to take notice of now seems to think so.

Looks odd to me. Halving the arms strapped down like that

Apparently it was the way he had his head tilted too or something. I'm not too sure that the eureka moment was because of how he held the child tbh, more..a deja vu thing. Like, I have seen this before. then it all clicks.

Anyway I am backing out of the thread again now because I feel I have made my views clear and it just seems to be getting a bit silly now.

Have fun

Agreed.

[Vanessa]

I think it was an accidental death and it has been covered up. I've thought this since the beginning.

[AnnieK]

The simple facts are there is no way anyone can know the truth for certain until either a body is found with concrete evidence of who killed her, or Maddie turns up or a confession is made. Everything else surely is circumstantial and speculative surely?

[chuff me dizzy]

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id261.html

For anyone whos interested this is the original timeline written on maddie sticker/colouring book BEFORE they rang the police (as you do )

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Oh dear another "hook line sinker victim " in 2007 when McCanns screamed "abduction"they started a snowball rolling which Im sure they thought would have stopped by now, how wrong they were ,They failed to realise this is the age of the internet, things cannot get brushed under the carpet like it did in the good old days the only thing that can stop it now is the thing they dread the most ,the TRUTH please dont comments on things you know nothing about

Your first response to my question.

I didn't jump on anyone's back.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by anniek76

The simple facts are there is no way anyone can know the truth for certain until either a body is found with concrete evidence of who killed her, or Maddie turns up or a confession is made. Everything else surely is circumstantial and speculative surely?

Yes, of course. It's just a feeling i've always had on this case. There's something not quite right.

[the truth]

they actually admitted theyd left the kids like that abroad for years....social services should have been involved years ago

[the truth]

was the door open? was the window open? the show was rubbish it didn't even clarify these simple facts

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by the truth

was the door open? was the window open? the show was rubbish it didn't even clarify these simple facts

The patio doors were left open weren't they?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

The patio doors were left open weren't they?

what kind of moron leaves patio doors open when 3 kids under 4 are in there alone in a foreign country? These are parents and doctors too? morons

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

was the door open? was the window open? the show was rubbish it didn't even clarify these simple facts

Yes, they did clarify. The patio doors weren't locked.