[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Yes, they did clarify. The patio doors weren't locked.

theyre idiots. theyd been doing this for years. also who checked the flat half an hour earlier? did they continue to leave the remaining kids in the room with unlocked doors after the maddie disappearance?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

theyre idiots. theyd been doing this for years. also who checked the flat half an hour earlier? did they continue to leave the remaining kids in the room with unlocked doors after the maddie disappearance?

Half an hour before was a friend who checked on them. Then Kate found her missing and then ran outside to shout "They've taken her".

[Kizzy]

'They've taken her' is an odd thing to shout or is it me?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

'They've taken her' is an odd thing to shout or is it me?

Very odd. But the entire circumstances of the whole night gives me chills.

They are now urgently looking for this man.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

They are now urgently looking for this man.

That's a man......????

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

That's a man......????

That's what I thought,'he' has very soft features for a man.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Zee

I'm not so much influenced by that, but more by my experiences of holiday resort towns whereby the area around the nice hotels is a paradise but the rest of the town is a slum and everyone relies totally on the tourism industry for their livelihood - is it like that or is it generally just a nice town? I don't think the police force are useless though, I think they gave the case more attention than it deserved and did their job properly.

Yeah I've not been to Prai da luz specifically but my parents do have a holiday apartment in the Algarve and my Uncle used to live out there working in development so I've been out there a few times, it's not riddled with poverty exactly but it is obvious as is the divide between holidaymakers/ex pats and the locals

I know the thread's move on a bit since but re the bungled burglary theory, I wasn't thinking of like professional/career criminals who plan things really well with getaway cars and the like, more likely just petty thieves or maybe even homeless people to whom luxury holiday resorts are an obvious target, they might not even have been looking to steal anything big, just something small that the family might not even care that much about but that they could pawn for a few euro or something like that

Admittedly it's quite unlikely, but this whole case is quite unlikely really

[Kizzy]

The reconstruction showed gerry locking the front door I thought, what's the point of locking one door and leaving another open?

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

They are now urgently looking for this man.

That's an efit of Zee

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...t=87613&page=4

[MTVN]

[Jamesy]

I always wonder what would have happened to The McCanns if this had happened in the UK. What they did pretty much was child neglect (and stupidity), in the UK that would be rather serious and they would have been at fault straight away, possibly even had charges against them. I wonder if the press would have still made them out as the victims (which I know they are in a way, I'm looking at the bigger picture though) if they had done anything like that on a holiday in the UK.

I do not think The McCanns were involved into the disappearance of their child (although I do agree with others that this case doesn't seem right), although I do think as the years have gone on they have used Madeleine's disappearance as a tool to make money from it. Just look at how public they have been over the years. Even now with them back in the limelight!

They've made some serious money over the years and while I do have empathy for them losing their daughter, I find it quite uncomfortable that they have dragged it on in the public light and have/are potentially only staying in the limelight in order to rake in money for themselves.

A strange thought I know, but for me personally, something is not right with them. They act very strangely and I just don't buy it.

(I know I haven't followed the current of the topic but I just wanted to share my views :P)

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

I always wonder what would have happened to The McCanns if this had happened in the UK. What they did pretty much was child neglect (and stupidity), in the UK that would be rather serious and they would have been at fault straight away, possibly even had charges against them. I wonder if the press would have still made them out as the victims (which I know they are in a way, I'm looking at the bigger picture though) if they had done anything like that on a holiday in the UK.

I do not think The McCanns were involved into the disappearance of their child (although I do agree with others that this case doesn't seem right), although I do think as the years have gone on they have used Madeleine's disappearance as a tool to make money from it. Just look at how public they have been over the years. Even now with them back in the limelight!

They've made some serious money over the years and while I do have empathy for them losing their daughter, I find it quite uncomfortable that they have dragged it on in the public light and have/are potentially only staying in the limelight in order to rake in money for themselves.

A strange thought I know, but for me personally, something is not right with them. They act very strangely and I just don't buy it.

(I know I haven't followed the current of the topic but I just wanted to share my views :P)

I relate strongly to your thinking and feelings as to this too. you summed up much of how I feel as to it.
Really interesting and thought provoking post.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The reconstruction showed gerry locking the front door I thought, what's the point of locking one door and leaving another open?

Rather bizarre. But yeah, it showed them close the curtains around the patio and then just slide the door shut with no lock.

Just the fact that the apartment was easily accessible from the street, completely out of view of the Tapas bar would scare me enough.

[Kizzy]

Yep, totally nuts...

[the truth]

didn't they spend the first few hours after shed disappeared sitting in the apartment?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Rather bizarre. But yeah, it showed them close the curtains around the patio and then just slide the door shut with no lock.

Just the fact that the apartment was easily accessible from the street, completely out of view of the Tapas bar would scare me enough.

why didn't they lock the patio doors? why has no one asked them this on crimewatch?

It feels as though they decided to get a massive public campaign going so no one could dare question them.

[Kizzy]

Yes, neither joined in the search.

[Z]

[the truth]

I thought the whole show was pathetic...It was hardly columbo....trying to be all artsy fartsy as always and failing hopelessly to deliver the specific information and to ask the most pertinent questions i.e. why did you leave the door open>? why did you leave the kids? how many times have you done this before and since her disappearance? do your friends all continue to do this? were their doors unlocked too? where has all the money raised gone? did you search immediately for maddie? if not, why not? why did you think going to see the Pope or calling beckham was a better move than working with detectives to find her? etc

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

This Crimewatch thing has been sat on for 6 months ,it has only been broadcast as try to cover up a libel case ongoing in Lisbon court where they are suing Goncalo Amaral the portuguese police Chief for libel in his book, a book which is based solely on the official police files both Uk and Pj ,The Mcs have tried to have the book banned and have lost 2 cases against him ,they are losing this one too, and they know if they do lose it ,it will prove whats been known for 6 years by people who care to look, that the police files hold the truth

Perhaps Chuff's post above has more than a ring of truth about it ??

Reading all the posts from this thread there are more than a few areas where the official story does not add up and the behaviour of the McCanns does seem strange in many instances.

Also the way this whole investigation has been undertaken by all police forces together with the way the press have been used again raises many questions.

I like most people long for the day when the truth is finally revealed about the Maddie McCann story, but I feel that day is still some way off...!!!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

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I like most people long for the day when the truth is finally revealed about the Maddie McCann story, but I feel that day is still some way off...!!!

I don't think it ever will be. It seems fairly obvious that the Portuguese police know, or are fairly sure, of what happened to Maddie, that her parents know she is dead and disposed of her body. Buy there has been a massive effort to bury that conclusion by powerful figures, including the police chief losing his job, and being threatened with libel suits several times.

It's becoming increasingly obvious that a hell of a lot of money and power is being pumped into the effort to NOT solve this case. Why? I really have no idea. At this point it could simply be because the implications of the truth being revealed are too wide-spread and "embarrassing" for both governments and for Scotland Yard.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't think it ever will be. It seems fairly obvious that the Portuguese police know, or are fairly sure, of what happened to Maddie, that her parents know she is dead and disposed of her body. Buy there has been a massive effort to bury that conclusion by powerful figures, including the police chief losing his job, and being threatened with libel suits several times.

It's becoming increasingly obvious that a hell of a lot of money and power is being pumped into the effort to NOT solve this case. Why? I really have no idea. At this point it could simply be because the implications of the truth being revealed are too wide-spread and "embarrassing" for both governments and for Scotland Yard.

talk about stretching it!
government's hiding the truth

we are talking about a missing girl presumed dead, you are getting carried away with this.

[user104658]

http://www.cwporter.com/mccann.htm

Absolutely gargantuan read, but for anyone who is interested, almost everything that has been buried and hushed up through libel cases is noted here. SIXTY reasons to doubt that she was ever abducted. And theyre not bullet points, each of the 60 reasons is several paragraphs long, and backed up with supporting information.

[Cherie]

Really so two people are getting away with not only murder, but also fraud, conning the public and wasting 5 million on a new investigation and the police are covering it up due to embarrassment!