Originally Posted by Cherie

Really so two people are getting away with not only murder, but also fraud, conning the public and wasting 5 million on a new investigation and the police are covering it up due to embarrassment!

I think it was JFK after he'd been hiding on the moon with Elvis for decades. I think it's pretty obvious that's the real cover up here.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Really so two people are getting away with not only murder, but also fraud, conning the public and wasting 5 million on a new investigation and the police are covering it up due to embarrassment!

Not murder, an accidental death, and when I say "embarrassment" I don't mean red-faces, I mean it would have drastic implications, especially as so much time has passed that it's highly unlikely that anything would EVER stick in a trial. There's no body, and the evidence is circumstantial but compelling. The evidence supporting an abduction, is zero. Absolutely zip.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Not murder, an accidental death, and when I say "embarrassment" I don't mean red-faces, I mean it would have drastic implications, especially as so much time has passed that it's highly unlikely that anything would EVER stick in a trial. There's no body, and the evidence is circumstantial but compelling. The evidence supporting an abduction, is zero. Absolutely zip.

I still don't get why they would pump so much more money into it now. I don't deny there are inconsistencies and some very strange things have gone on but I can't see the value in a cover up. I can see the value in letting it drop and letting the McCanns foot the bill for any further investigation but not a cover up.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zee

Yeah but if you're a worst-case-scenario person like I am (and I believe Kate McCann is too) then your mind jumps to the worst possible conclusion... and unfortunately in this case, she was right to think so. If you have unscrupulous men looking to kidnap toddlers to sell into the sex trade, they're not going to take babies, they're going to take toddlers. I'm of the opinion that the people who took her are not the people who have her right now, I believe they were just middle men who go out and do the dirty work and then sell the victims onto someone. It's quite possible they kidnapped her, took her to the beach and someone in a boat sped off to an unknown location. If the kids were sedated, as has been suggested in this thread (there was no mention of that in the Crimewatch report that I noticed but I'm assuming that it's been reported somewhere else?) then Madeleine wouldn't have even put up a struggle, she could well have been asleep the entire time if she'd been drugged by her parents.

Just a combination of sloppy negligent parenting and awful, tragic coincidence.

Still though straight after it happened she couldn't possibly know if she had been taken or if she wondered off looking for her parents or had an accident. I think most people would have shouted first off Maddie is gone or maddie is missing, it was a bit premature to conclude that she'd been taken imo

[user104658]

Exactly, she was upset the night before and a door was left unlocked. Yes, you would panic, but the first thought would be "she's gone off looking for us". And like I said there was never any further evidence of an abduction. It's perfectly feasible that she DID wander off and got into some sort of accident and has simply never been found. But they screamed "abduction" straight away and have never wavered from that, despite there being absolutely no evidence of an abduction.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

They are now urgently looking for this man.

That looks like a woman.

[Kazanne]

I really don't think she was abducted either.

[Vanessa]

I never thought that she could have wondered off. That is possible i suppose.

Originally Posted by Vanessa

That looks like a woman.

Could be a lesbian, I suppose?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Could be a lesbian, I suppose?

It just doesn't look like a man. Could be a woman with short hair.

[Jemal]

I she was to wander off she would of taken her teddy. As thats what kids tend to do...
Starting to think she got killed. Cause getting abducted for 7 years is abit meh without even being seen...
Thing is aswell if she did get killed in the room or Beach or whatever... There would of found MUCH more evidence or even a dead body on the beach..
Cause i mean they did search the bloody resort from top to bottom.

Ah this is just mind exhausting..

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It just doesn't look like a man. Could be a woman with short hair.

Yeah - a lesbian.

[Jemal]

LMFAO what if it was a woman? Who took madeline...
Oh god it can't be..

[Z]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Could be a lesbian, I suppose?

I hate you

Originally Posted by Zee

I hate you

[Z]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

My girlish good looks and good name have been besmirched! Besmirched!!!

[AnnieK]

Aw Greg...you're very pretty, Jesus is just jealous

[Kazanne]

What happened to Clarence Mitchell?

[Niall]

Although I disagree with a lot of people in this thread about the actions of the McCanns (what they did may have been selfish, but not necessarily neglectful), I don't understand why they never ate with the children at that restaurant earlier on in the evening - especially after what Madeleine said on the morning of her abduction. That's the only thing that strikes me as a bit odd.

[AnnieK]

Leaving your children whilst you go out to eat and drink is selfish, leaving your children after they have told you they woke up distressed, scared and alone is neglectful in my opinion. Having read the article that the children were in kids club for 5 hours a day and then left alone at night it begs the question why even take the children on holiday if you didn't want to spend any time with them

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Niall

Although I disagree with a lot of people in this thread about the actions of the McCanns (what they did may have been selfish, but not necessarily neglectful), I don't understand why they never ate with the children at that restaurant earlier on in the evening - especially after what Madeleine said on the morning of her abduction. That's the only thing that strikes me as a bit odd.

Yeah, I thought that's what everyone did when they went abroad with their kids, you always see restaurants full of kids over there, we've done it ourselves with our own kids and the Spanish are very kid friendly, there wouldn't be a problem with that.

I disagree though that leaving two 2 year olds and a 3 year old in an unlocked apartment alone isn't neglectful though, jeez what if there was a fire? Or one of them wandered out onto a road or out and fell in the pool? It's unbelievably neglectful imo

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by anniek76

Leaving your children whilst you go out to eat and drink is selfish, leaving your children after they have told you they woke up distressed, scared and alone is neglectful in my opinion. Having read the article that the children were in kids club for 5 hours a day and then left alone at night it begs the question why even take the children on holiday if you didn't want to spend any time with them

This^

[Ammi]

..just by the by..they won't allow any threads/opinions on Madeleine's disappearance or the case on DS....

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..just by the by..they won't allow any threads/opinions on Madeleine's disappearance or the case on DS....

Mmm wonder why that is?

[MTVN]

Suppose it's because people have been convicted for libel or threatened with legal actions in the past for accusing the McCann's of playing a part in it