[DemRed]

Originally Posted by Livia

You know this is serious debates, right?

Yep, but then I just can't take you seriously!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by DemRed

Yep, but then I just can't take you seriously!

Right back at ya, and I never have been able to. And I don't have to use a row of emojis to say it.

[Livia]

Serious debates and news. Says so right there on the tin.

You say "your friend LT" like an insult. It is not.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Biden's plan to end the war seems pretty good

[Livia]

There's so much hate and resentment I can hardly see either side giving the other an inch, sadly. It sounds good in theory, though.

[Liam-]

It’s pretty much the exact same deal that Israel turned down months ago so they could keep killing children, it’s not going to go anywhere now

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Liam-

It’s pretty much the exact same deal that Israel turned down months ago so they could keep killing children, it’s not going to go anywhere now

Israel is proposing it this time

[arista]

Sad News
SkyNewsHD


IDF confirmed the dead body of a British-Israeli man
has been found.

[DemRed]

Originally Posted by arista

Sad News
SkyNewsHD


IDF confirmed the dead body of a British-Israeli man
has been found.

The claim is, Nadav Popplewell was killed by an Israeli missile.

May his soul rest in peace

[arista]

Originally Posted by DemRed

The claim is, Nadav Popplewell was killed by an Israeli missile.

May his soul rest in peace

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrrng3l6jro


[Israel's military says it has established the
deaths of four more people abducted by
Hamas on 7 October.

It says the four were killed while together
during an Israeli operation in Khan Younis
in southern Gaza, adding that their bodies
were still being held by the militants.

The men were named as
British-Israeli Nadav Popplewell, 51,
Chaim Peri, 79,
Yoram Metzger, 80, and
Amiram Cooper, 85.

IDF spokesman Rear Adm Daniel Hagari
said intelligence gathered in recent
weeks had led to the assessment.

"We assess that the four of them were
killed while together in the area of
Khan Younis during our operation there
against Hamas," he said, without giving
further details.

Last month, Hamas claimed that
Nadav Popplewell had died in an
Israeli strike in April.
The UK Foreign Office said it was
investigating, but there was no
confirmation of his death until now.]

[DemRed]

Youtube video

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

"We assess that the four of them were killed while together in the area of Khan Younis during our operation there against Hamas."

Well there's some political-speak if ever there was any.

[DemRed]

Yesterday they bombed another school where people were sheltering. Another 40 dead including children and a woman who was in the middle of giving birth.

Meanwhile, hundreds of far Right Israeli settlers gather at Bab al Amad Plaza in occupied Jerusalem and prepare to break into the Muslim quarters of the Old City.

Far Right Itamar Ben-Gvir, Minister of National Security in Israel, explicitly announces the Israel occupation's intention to fully occupy Gaza and displace Palestinians over the borders.

Israeli media report that Israel's Ambassador of the UN Gilad Erdan has informed his US counterparts that the occupation state opposes the Security Council Resolution.

[arista]

[user104658]

Certain members have gone awfully quiet on this thread recently. Which is not a criticism, by the way - hopefully, people are actually starting to develop a more balanced understanding of what we're actually looking at here.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Certain members have gone awfully quiet on this thread recently. Which is not a criticism, by the way - hopefully, people are actually starting to develop a more balanced understanding of what we're actually looking at here.

If you're referring to me I can assure you I drop in here every time I visit to watch the Hamas cheerleaders wringing their hands. And I'm never disappointed.

You yourself are not awfully quiet on any thread. I certainly wouldn't try to provoke you into posting if you were.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

You yourself are not awfully quiet on any thread. I certainly wouldn't try to provoke you into posting if you were.

touché on that one

[Liam-]

Did anyone see that Zionist march where they were chanting about wanting to see the villages burn and other grotesque, genocidal stuff? People have spent so long claiming these people are the good guys and don’t want to hurt anyone and then every chance they get they film themselves being monsters and the cycle continues its equally fascinating and distressing, you really do get a real time look at how dictators and genocidal leaders are able to prosper and grip power to do whatever they want and still have people defend the indefensible

[DemRed]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Did anyone see that Zionist march where they were chanting about wanting to see the villages burn and other grotesque, genocidal stuff? People have spent so long claiming these people are the good guys and donÂ’t want to hurt anyone and then every chance they get they film themselves being monsters and the cycle continues its equally fascinating and distressing, you really do get a real time look at how dictators and genocidal leaders are able to prosper and grip power to do whatever they want and still have people defend the indefensible

I saw a video yesterday where a gang of settlers marched through the Old City of Jerusalem, spitting, cursing and chanting genocidal slogans. They were picking up things from an elderly mans shop and smashing them on the ground. When he stepped in to try and stop them, the police arrested the shop keeper. Far Right settlers are under the protection of the occupation.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by DemRed

I saw a video yesterday where a gang of settlers marched through the Old City of Jerusalem, spitting, cursing and chanting genocidal slogans. They were picking up things from an elderly mans shop and smashing them on the ground. When he stepped in to try and stop them, the police arrested the shop keeper. Far Right settlers are under the protection of the occupation.

If the settlers are far right, what does that make Hamas?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

If the settlers are far right, what does that make Hamas?

I don't know what you expect as an answer there, but it's generally accepted that most if not all terrorist-political organisations are far right, including Hamas.

They get a lot of post-modernist modern-western-leftist support (population, there are no leftist govts in the west) but Hamas themselves can't possibly be described as in any way "left"... They're righties.

Of course the political meaning of "left and right" has become completely twisted in general discourse these days. LGBTQ rights are supposedly "left", anti-abortion stances are supposedly "right" etc when in reality none of these issues have anything at all to do with right or left.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I don't know what you expect as an answer there, but it's generally accepted that most if not all terrorist-political organisations are far right, including Hamas.

They get a lot of post-modernist modern-western-leftist support (population, there are no leftist govts in the west) but Hamas themselves can't possibly be described as in any way "left"... They're righties.

Of course the political meaning of "left and right" has become completely twisted in general discourse these days. LGBTQ rights are supposedly "left", anti-abortion stances are supposedly "right" etc when in reality none of these issues have anything at all to do with right or left.

most of the terrorist supporters in western countries are from the left wing. Thats not doubtful in any way

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I don't know what you expect as an answer there, but it's generally accepted that most if not all terrorist-political organisations are far right, including Hamas.

They get a lot of post-modernist modern-western-leftist support (population, there are no leftist govts in the west) but Hamas themselves can't possibly be described as in any way "left"... They're righties.

Of course the political meaning of "left and right" has become completely twisted in general discourse these days. LGBTQ rights are supposedly "left", anti-abortion stances are supposedly "right" etc when in reality none of these issues have anything at all to do with right or left.

which makes all the support of Hamas from the woke mind virus marxist kids even more bonkers and laughable

[DemRed]

Originally Posted by parmnion

If the settlers are far right, what does that make Hamas?

When I say settlers, I mean those who have moved onto Palestinian territory in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem.

Both support extremist elements. That said, most Jews in Israel don't support these illegal settlements and see these settlers as extremists.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by DemRed

When I say settlers, I mean those who have moved onto Palestinian territory in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem.

Both support extremist elements. That said, most Jews in Israel don't support these illegal settlements and see these settlers as extremists.

You mean onto the land the palestinian farmers have sold them?