[Omah]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2U7QGekwB

Michael Adeboloja, 28, was born in Lambeth, south London, in 1985 to a Christian family of Nigerian descent.

At the age of 15 or 16 he started getting involved in Islam and started to speak about Jihadi ideas.

He joined several extremist groups - including Al Muhajiroun - that were banned in Britain and in 2003 converted to Islam, calling himself Mujaheed while at Marshalls Park School*.

Fearing he had become radicalised, his parents moved him away from Romford to a village in Lincolnshire.

Concerned parents, a comfortable home, a good school - where did it all go wrong for Adeboloja?

* OFSTED :

“The school effectively promotes students’ personal development, which results in a positive, inclusive school environment where staff and students work very well together……Students of all backgrounds get on well together because the school ethos effectively promotes tolerance and understanding…..Good relationships between students and between students and staff, good teacher subject knowledge and focused intervention for students falling behind in their learning are raising attainment”.

WTF has the guys school got to do with anything? The 9/11 bombers were graduates.

Extremism is not only the practice of the poor and uneducated.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

WTF has the guys school got to do with anything? The 9/11 bombers were graduates.

Extremism is not only the practice of the poor and uneducated.

I also mentioned parents and home .....

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

WTF has the guys school got to do with anything? The 9/11 bombers were graduates.

Extremism is not only the practice of the poor and uneducated.

He isn't saying he was poor or uneducated, he was radicalised at a impressionable age... brainwashed, this is how they work to infiltrate the UK.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

He isn't saying he was poor or uneducated, he was radicalised at a impressionable age... brainwashed, this is how they work to infiltrate the UK.

Concerned parents, a comfortable home, a good school - where did it all go wrong for Adeboloja?

That's nonsense, Kizzy.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

That's nonsense, Kizzy.

It actually isn't jesus, and watching jacks clip I see that the guy has a similar stance on it.
If you don't agree with me fine, I won't suggest your comments are nonsense and would appreciate if you do the same.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

That's nonsense, Kizzy.

That's balderdash Jesus .....

[Kizzy]

I don't think this was part of an 'organised' terrorist plot, the fact it is so shocking is it has that 'amateur' feel to it.
A suicide bomber targeting buildings and planes we are aware of and are prepared for, these random acts of murder we are not.
COBRA will want to know how likely it is for this type of violence to happen again.

[Jack_]

An interesting take on the events

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22634095

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jack_

An interesting take on the events

I'm glad you're back Jack :

Originally Posted by Jack_

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...n-tonight.html



As someone else said...his point is perfectly reasonable and I can totally understand the reasonings behind it, but an eye for an eye never works and this is truly just as disgusting as what he is condemning.

Originally Posted by Omah

Excuse me, but what point is "perfectly reasonable" .....

Originally Posted by Jack_

I'll respond to that point when you justify your racist remark a few pages back and explain to me how it's surprising that a black man is 'well spoken'.

Originally Posted by Omah

That's not what I said .....

I said "The "fanatic" is surprisingly black and well-spoken" .....

At 1930, the news program I was watching described a "terrorist" attack having taken place in Woolwich where one of the assailants (no ethnicity or race mentioned) had been shouting incoherently except for one phrase "Allahu Akbar”, which, AFAIK, is an Islamic phrase which Muslims use, meaning "God is great".

I was therefore surprised when, later, linked on this site to a video which showed a black man speaking English very well* (or with "reason") when most of Britain's Muslims are of Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi origin or ethnicity and such extremists as belong to those origin/ethnicities are frequently portrayed as being lacking in English language communication and presentation skills **.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22624100

* "We must fight them as they fight us. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth," said the Woolwich attacker who spoke with a London accent. "I apologise that women have had to witness this today, but in our land our women have to see the same."



** See Parviz Khan link in post #281.

Now explain your remark, as I requested, please .....

#281

Originally Posted by Omah

http://www.channel4.com/news/woolwic...-previous-plot



Parviz Khan taught sons: This is how you slit the throats of your enemies

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-taught-294158

I've been waiting for your response .....

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jack_

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...n-tonight.html

As someone else said...his point is perfectly reasonable and I can totally understand the reasonings behind it, but an eye for an eye never works and this is truly just as disgusting as what he is condemning.

Originally Posted by Omah

Excuse me, but what point is "perfectly reasonable" .....

Originally Posted by Jack_

I'll respond to that point when you justify your racist remark a few pages back and explain to me how it's surprising that a black man is 'well spoken'.

Originally Posted by Omah

That's not what I said .....

I said "The "fanatic" is surprisingly black and well-spoken" .....

At 1930, the news program I was watching described a "terrorist" attack having taken place in Woolwich where one of the assailants (no ethnicity or race mentioned) had been shouting incoherently except for one phrase "Allahu Akbar”, which, AFAIK, is an Islamic phrase which Muslims use, meaning "God is great".

I was therefore surprised when, later, linked on this site to a video which showed a black man speaking English very well* (or with "reason") when most of Britain's Muslims are of Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi origin or ethnicity and such extremists as belong to those origin/ethnicities are frequently portrayed as being lacking in English language communication and presentation skills **.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22624100

* "We must fight them as they fight us. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth," said the Woolwich attacker who spoke with a London accent. "I apologise that women have had to witness this today, but in our land our women have to see the same."



** See Parviz Khan link in post #281.

Now explain your remark, as I requested, please .....

Originally Posted by Omah

http://www.channel4.com/news/woolwic...-previous-plot



Parviz Khan taught sons: This is how you slit the throats of your enemies

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-taught-294158

Originally Posted by Omah

I'm glad you're back Jack :

I've been waiting for your response .....

[Brother Leon]

Keep seeing this guy when I see the second person...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Keep seeing this guy when I see the second person...

We only have a distant photo of the other killer

[arista]

It was a Police Women who shot the two
Islamic Terrorists to the ground


Good on her
to act so fast

[Marcus.]

Help for Heroes website to crash because of lots of Surge in donations

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...fic-surge.html

[arista]

Originally Posted by Marcus.

Help for Heroes website to crash because of lots of Surge in donations

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...fic-surge.html

Marcus would you put a T-Shirt on in London?

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by arista

Marcus would you put a T-Shirt on in London?

ermm
yeah but two promblems

1. they been told to cover up
2 i live in newcastle

[Nedusa]

Does anyone feel Muslim religious leaders need to be a bit more vocal in their condemnation of acts like these. Maybe the time has come for the Muslim communities to stand up a bit more and protest at the way their religion is used by extremists who carry out this type of atrocity.

Non Muslim British people go to great pains to distance normal peace loving Muslims from the maniac types who carry out these sorts of attack, but maybe now all Muslims from all walks of life should rise up with one voice and say enough is enough.

Perhaps the Islamic centres should look more closely at the style of teaching in Mosques and the truer beliefs of some of their Imams.

It would be nice if all religions (Incl Islam) stood together to condemn this type of barbarity once and for all and re-iterate that peace and love are the only way to move forward.

Or am I being too idealistic....????

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Does anyone feel Muslim religious leaders need to be a bit more vocal in their condemnation of acts like these. Maybe the time has come for the Muslim communities to stand up a bit more and protest at the way their religion is used by extremists who carry out this type of atrocity.

Non Muslim British people go to great pains to distance normal peace loving Muslims from the maniac types who carry out these sorts of attack, but maybe now all Muslims from all walks of life should rise up with one voice and say enough is enough.

Perhaps the Islamic centres should look more closely at the style of teaching in Mosques and the truer beliefs of some of their Imams.

It would be nice if all religions (Incl Islam) stood together to condemn this type of barbarity once and for all and re-iterate that peace and love are the only way to move forward.

Or am I being too idealistic....????

BIB ..... Yes

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Does anyone feel Muslim religious leaders need to be a bit more vocal in their condemnation of acts like these. Maybe the time has come for the Muslim communities to stand up a bit more and protest at the way their religion is used by extremists who carry out this type of atrocity.

Non Muslim British people go to great pains to distance normal peace loving Muslims from the maniac types who carry out these sorts of attack, but maybe now all Muslims from all walks of life should rise up with one voice and say enough is enough.

Perhaps the Islamic centres should look more closely at the style of teaching in Mosques and the truer beliefs of some of their Imams.

It would be nice if all religions (Incl Islam) stood together to condemn this type of barbarity once and for all and re-iterate that peace and love are the only way to move forward.

Or am I being too idealistic....????

No,I agree,they need to be seen condemning this barbaric behaviour otherwise it looks as though they are condoning it.Has anyone stood up yet?

[Marcus.]

they been told to cover up when not on duty

[arista]

MOD say the Soldier that was killed
was Lee Rigby

25 years old

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by arista

MOD say the Soldier that was killed
was Lee Rigby

25 years old

they named him

[arista]

Originally Posted by Marcus.

they named him

http://news.sky.com/story/1094804/wo...-soldier-named


Yes


[The soldier murdered in a terrorist attack near
a military barracks in Woolwich has
been named as Drummer Lee Rigby.
The 25-year-old, of 2nd Batallion the Royal Regiment
of Fusilliers, was killed in front of shocked onlookers.
Witnesses said he was attacked by two men with
a number of weapons, including knives and a meat cleaver,
while they shouted the name of "Allah".]

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by arista

http://news.sky.com/story/1094804/wo...-soldier-named


Yes

awwwwwwwwwwwwww