[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

That's the thing though, modding is already anonymous. A person can only assume that a certain mod is handing out infractions, they can't truly know.

One example of this involves Niamh, when SamPVT was on the forum, she would get tirades of abuse any time he got infracted although most of the time she had nothing to do with it and even if she was behind the infractions, all of the infractions Sam received were fair because all mods see every infraction that occurs and if we take issue with it, we say something. .

I mean anonymous in that someone else is appointed as a Mod, the forum doesn't need to know who they are, if the appeals section is open anyone with an issue can take it there, if the anonymous mod is fair and even handed I can't see the issue, I used to see Sam himself accuse Niamh, I can't remember anyone else doing it and I certainly didn't.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

That's the thing though, modding is already anonymous. A person can only assume that a certain mod is handing out infractions, they can't truly know.

One example of this involves Niamh, when SamPVT was on the forum, she would get tirades of abuse any time he got infracted although most of the time she had nothing to do with it and even if she was behind the infractions, all of the infractions Sam received were fair because all mods see every infraction that occurs and if we take issue with it, we say something. .

When you're the only mod on the board and people are being infracted for stuff that's barely infractable.... it's you.

You are not a fair mod, Dezzy. I would love to see how you fared as an ordinary forum member without hiding behind your moderator status. I hope we get to find out some time soon.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well said Smudgie

Niamh who abused you over Sam ?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Niamh who abused you over Sam ?

What do you mean?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What do you mean?

Dezzy said you got abuse from members over Sam ,I was wondering who abused you, I can PM you if you wish " One example of this involves Niamh, when SamPVT was on the forum, she would get tirades of abuse any time he got infracted "

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by smudgie

One word answer.
Respect.


Long answer.
Is it so flippin’ hard to respect the fact that people have different views on any given subject.
That’s the reason to debate a subject, learn about different views.
Personal grievances have no place on any forum, especially an otherwise friendly one like TIBB.
A decent sense of humour and a bit of lightning up would go a long way as well.

Totally agree with this, I say a LOT tongue in cheek as that is my sense of humour, but some choose to not get it and go ott in abuse instead of seeing the comment for what it was ....... F.U.N. I don't expect everyone to have a good sense of humour,the world isn't perfect, but it would go a long way to making this a happier place if they had

[Livia]

Is that my post you're reporting Dezzy?

Another infraction coming my way no doubt.

[Rob!]

Oh look. The banned members come back and automatically the witch hunts begin again.

Sense of humour that we choose not to get? Utter bollocks.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Rob!

Oh look. The banned members come back and automatically the witch hunts begin again.

Sense of humour that we choose not to get? Utter bollocks.

It's not a witch-hunt, Rob. And if you really think that, you underestimate the power of feeling on the forum at the moment. Maybe if you were in SD more, you'd see the problem.

[Rob!]

Why would being in SD more make a difference? I’ve seen what it’s like in there myself. It’s horrible. It’s full of arguments, not debates and people are made to feel like crap for having a different opinion. It also is the area that is causing one of the main issues (although there are others. Why would I want to post in there?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Rob!

Why would being in SD more make a difference? I’ve seen what it’s like in there myself. It’s horrible. It’s full of arguments, not debates and people are made to feel like crap for having a different opinion. It also is the area that is causing one of the main issues (although there are others. Why would I want to post in there?

Because you're calling this a witch hunt, and it isn't. And if you don't go into SD then you don't have the full picture... but you're free to comment without knowing the full picture, of course. I would prefer you saw both sides, then you'd understand.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Livia

Because you're calling this a witch hunt, and it isn't. And if you don't go into SD then you don't have the full picture... but you're free to comment without knowing the full picture, of course. I would prefer you saw both sides, then you'd understand.

I’ve read it though. It doesn’t seem like the sort of place to post that I would enjoy. I’lL occasionally go in and post my opinion, but there are some threads that I will see the title of and just know that the posts within it are going to make me angry, so I don’t go in. I do the same with Daily Mail articles.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I’ve read it though. It doesn’t seem like the sort of place to post that I would enjoy. I’lL occasionally go in and post my opinion, but there are some threads that I will see the title of and just know that the posts within it are going to make me angry, so I don’t go in. I do the same with Daily Mail articles.

Just remember a lot of responses were deleted ,if they hadn't been you may understand the problem more.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Rob!

Why would being in SD more make a difference? I’ve seen what it’s like in there myself. It’s horrible. It’s full of arguments, not debates and people are made to feel like crap for having a different opinion. It also is the area that is causing one of the main issues (although there are others. Why would I want to post in there?

Yes you are right, or they are told that opinion is made up because of a general dislike of the other person and they truely don't believe in the point they are making, or they are told the place was better when they were banned, none of those people have made any ban list recently. If you feel its a witch hunt that is your opinion, but it is far from it, we need consistency and a fair hand for everyone that is all.

[Twosugars]

the rightwing clique is back at it, concerted effort to bring down a mod and probably even drive him off the forum
Luckily Dezzy has plenty of support, regardless whether he is a mod or not.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

the rightwing clique is back at it, concerted effort to bring down a mod and probably even drive him off the forum
Luckily Dezzy has plenty of support, regardless whether he is a mod or not.

You've been here three months, if we're to believe you're not a returning member... you know neither the facts nor the strength of feeling on the forum. If you did, you may be a little less blinkered.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

You've been here three months, if we're to believe you're not a returning member... you know neither the facts nor the strength of feeling on the forum. If you did, you may be a little less blinkered.

There you go again, dismissing my right to have my own opinion because I'm a relatively new member (four months and counting). And this paranoid belief I'm a returning member - another fabricated reason to undermine my opinion.
Bullying disguised as self-righteousness.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

There you go again, dismissing my right to have my own opinion because I'm a relatively new member (four months and counting). And this paranoid belief I'm a returning member - another fabricated reason to undermine my opinion.
Bullying disguised as self-righteousness.

Whatever.... I'm not the only one who recognises your style.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Whatever.... I'm not the only one who recognises your style.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

Whatever.... I'm not the only one who recognises your style.

who else does? do tell
and who am I supposed to be? share that with all, stop beating about the bush
once that's out in the open maybe we can devise a verification so that we can prove how foolish this accusation is

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

You've been here three months, if we're to believe you're not a returning member... you know neither the facts nor the strength of feeling on the forum. If you did, you may be a little less blinkered.

I don't believe in that narrative either. Mysterious groundswell of discontent mysteriously centering on one mod.
From what I see most people have no problem whatsoever with mods here, Dezzy included. But there's a group of, what, 10 at a push, that share most of their views on everything, but especially on gettin rid of Dezzy.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I don't believe in that narrative either. Mysterious groundswell of discontent mysteriously centering on one mod.
From what I see most people have no problem whatsoever with mods here, Dezzy included. But there's a group of, what, 10 at a push, that share most of their views on everything, but especially on gettin rid of Dezzy.

You have no idea of the real problem, nor of the number of people who share my opinion. So your views are meaningless to me.

Not sure I could have given such a sweeping opinion of a huge problem on the forum when I'd only been here 4 months.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

You have no idea of the real problem, nor of the number of people who share my opinion. So your views are meaningless to me.

Not sure I could have given such a sweeping opinion of a huge problem on the forum when I'd only been here 4 months.

Sweeping comments were made about people when he/she had less than 100 posts

Back on topic . Im so glad things are getting thrashed out, it needed doing a long time ago

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

You have no idea of the real problem, nor of the number of people who share my opinion. So your views are meaningless to me.

Not sure I could have given such a sweeping opinion of a huge problem on the forum when I'd only been here 4 months.

meaningless of inconvenient? if there were meaningless you'd not engage discussing with me

4 months is plenty; I bet 4 days would be enough, the attacks on Dezzy are very regular and predictable

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I don't believe in that narrative either. Mysterious groundswell of discontent mysteriously centering on one mod.
From what I see most people have no problem whatsoever with mods here, Dezzy included. But there's a group of, what, 10 at a push, that share most of their views on everything, but especially on gettin rid of Dezzy.

Talk about presumptuous ,let me just say , you might think you have it right, but you know nothing ,no one knows except the ones involved, there is no mystery ,but continue to dramatize.