[Ammi]

...my anxiety over Dwight’s well-being is at an all time high as well, Jordan...it was hard to get through that episode because it was so tense for him...I’m not sure how realistic it is to hope he survives in the finale.....I hope he does...


...Eugene successfully hiding under the ashes though was just silly I thought...he has no sense of survival in that context and yet he ‘fooled’ two such prominent group survivor characters so easily...’he couldn’t have got far’ as they walk off in the distance but didn’t think of poking about in the ashes at all...hmmmm, no...just silly...


...maybe Eugene isn’t working for Negan...(...and also why he needed to escape and go back..)...maybe he is doing something to the bullets to harm Negan and his people...I don’t know what can be done with bullets but maybe Eugene is sabotaging them in some way...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...my anxiety over Dwight’s well-being is at an all time high as well, Jordan...it was hard to get through that episode because it was so tense for him...I’m not sure how realistic it is to hope he survives in the finale.....I hope he does...


...Eugene successfully hiding under the ashes though was just silly I thought...he has no sense of survival in that context and yet he ‘fooled’ two such prominent group survivor characters so easily...’he couldn’t have got far’ as they walk off in the distance but didn’t think of poking about in the ashes at all...hmmmm, no...just silly...


...maybe Eugene isn’t working for Negan...(...and also why he needed to escape and go back..)...maybe he is doing something to the bullets to harm Negan and his people...I don’t know what can be done with bullets but maybe Eugene is sabotaging them in some way...

I don't think so, i think he's gone full rat. He was the one who suggested infecting all the hilltop group and managed to kill loads of them

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

He'll survive dw.


I know someone must die in the next ep though, but I genuinely have no idea who it will be

i think Morgan and from the saviors probably Arat, Laura

[Ant.]

I'm praying we're getting a Team Family Death-Free finale, similar to 4x16 and 5x16, but given it's a war I'm doubting that. Although with us recently losing Carl, part of me has faith Rick & Co. are somewhat safe (although it's not like that'd stop them from killing someone off)

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

I'm praying we're getting a Team Family Death-Free finale, similar to 4x16 and 5x16, but given it's a war I'm doubting that. Although with us recently losing Carl, part of me has faith Rick & Co. are somewhat safe (although it's not like that'd stop them from killing someone off)

yes true, but still i can see a character like Morgan dying now, especially since we've seen him have those weird hallucinations


but also Rick had a vision at the start of season 8 and Negan was in that vision either

Spoiler:

i am wondering could this vision have been a hint at what the future is going to be like, since Rick is getting that same grey beard more and more now either

[Nicky91]

i personally hope Rick dies, cause i can't stand him

[Cherie]

One of the better episodes for a while, good tension building and a satisfying death

The story line is building for Daryl to save Dwight I feel

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i personally hope Rick dies, cause i can't stand him

A dirty mess

[Nicky91]

Daryl saving Dwight, that would really shock me, cause Daryl doesn't care about anyone

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Daryl saving Dwight, that would really shock me, cause Daryl doesn't care about anyone

I sometimes think you're watching a different show to everyone else Nicky Daryl is incredibly loyal to his core group, Rick, Michonne, Carol etc. He doesn't like Dwight because they have history

[Cal.]

Eugene executed after sabotaging The Saviors with the bullets I bloody reckon

[Babayaro.]

That was Carl's vision/fantasy/dream, not Rick's.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

That was Carl's vision/fantasy/dream, not Rick's.

we didn't see Carl in that vision though

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

we didn't see Carl in that vision though

Because he's dead, and he knew he was dying. If it was Rick's vision then why wouldn't Carl be in it?

[Strictly Jake]

Yeah the visions were how Carl pictured the future to be not literally how it will turn out though so maybe negan won't be good in the end there may be a chance he gets killed in the war. It will probably pan out that you know either rick or negan has died and don't find out until the end or next year

[Cal.]

Spoiler:

Omfgggg at Rick keeping Negan alive. Really not interested anymore.

The only thing that keeps me intrigued going forward is the fact that Maggie, Jesus and Daryl are ready to turn on Rick.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Spoiler:

Omfgggg at Rick keeping Negan alive. Really not interested anymore.

The only thing that keeps me intrigued going forward is the fact that Maggie, Jesus and Daryl are ready to turn on Rick.

Spoiler:

well now at least Negan can give the information what he saw at the junkyard, Georgie's helikopter and Rick kept Negan alive probably because Carl wanted that, for Rick to become a different person

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Spoiler:

Omfgggg at Rick keeping Negan alive. Really not interested anymore.

The only thing that keeps me intrigued going forward is the fact that Maggie, Jesus and Daryl are ready to turn on Rick.

Spoiler:

I was ****ing screaming at how sinister Maggie came across in that scene
Falls a bit flat if she does end up leaving though especially when they begin filming VERY soon

What I didn't like about the comics is that, Maggie agreed to the idea of keeping Negan alive since it's what Glenn would've wanted. In a way, yes, she honoured Glenn and his peaceful ways (well, for a ZA, Comic!Glenn didn't kill anyone).
I guess that would've fell through with how she said Glenn sorta led them to war in 7x16's monologue? Especially with Glenn having killed people in the TV show. I always thought that was a weird divergence since we never see how killing people affected Glenn despite how hesitant he was, but I'm gonna guess that this was the reason for - so Maggie doesn't agree with such bull**** of keeping Negan alive.

I'm sorta SHOOK they're seemingly willingly throwing a wrench in the Rick/Daryl friendship when people fangirl over it so much - not complaining though.

Aw Anne (formerly Jadis) is joining Alexandria that's sweet

Also I LOVED that Oceanside helped out (it was a buildup for half a season like but meh)

Idk I felt like this was a great season for tying up loose ends! Even if Heath and Sherry are nowhere to be found... but meh we can solve them next season.
We should be seeing the Whisperers VERY soon but I can only wonder how the whole Lydia **** will work with Carl dead. Part of me's believing Georgie is from the Commonwealth, or if not she had some relation the helicopter. Regardless, if there's one thing this episode did right, it was setting up Season 9

[Jordan.]

Spoiler:

The Maggie scene had me SHAKING she better snatch Rick

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Spoiler:

The Maggie scene had me SHAKING she better snatch Rick

Spoiler:

Maggie is a crazy bitch, Rick had just finally seen the light now and yes i can imagine Negan telling them things what he saw from Georgie's helikopter, if she has that stuff what more does she need from Hilltop/Alexandria/Kingdom, i can see Georgie becoming season 9's villain but also since Lauren Cohan said she would leave the series i can see her going all crazy and then possibly being killed by Rick

[Strictly Jake]

That last episode that I was very much looking forward to was......

A load of garbage I was so disappointed it was all so unbelievable and cheesy and cringe

Only good thing about it was the fact Eugene double crossed negan what a guy!!

Maggie Jesus and Daryl....completely silly

[Niamh.]

Keeping Negan alive ffs

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Keeping Negan alive ffs

I hated that right before Rick slit his throat, Negan seemed to be crying?? Which was clearly an attempt at making us feel sympathetic towards him.


However, this is probably the most intrigued I have been for a new season. I'm glad they never ended it on a silly cliffhanger. Season nine has been set up perfectly.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Spoiler:

The Maggie scene had me SHAKING she better snatch Rick

Spoiler:

It's surreal how Maggie's been a leader of a community for not even 2 seasons and is better than Rick

Maggie just has me shook in general. When she delivered the walker Savior to Negan When she led Hilltop to Alexandria in 7x16 ugh just Maggie in general. Lauren's amazing and while I can't imagine a Maggie recast, I don't want to lose Maggie, even if it means Lauren gets to escape this ****show

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Keeping Negan alive ffs

A few comic spoilers regarding the future of the show:

Spoiler:

Negan becomes a sorta big character in the Whisperer War and how it ends. Also Maggie ends up getting closure in the end but it took too ****ing long imo

That aside, Negan's death really.... could've done with being a divergence from the comics. Obviously JDM and Negan are massive fan-favs and is probably gonna have the same plot armour as Daryl and outlive Rick .

Sasha died trying to kill Negan, the entire plan was pretty much centred around killing Negan. That's what they constantly said. Rick EMPHASISED "I told you I was gonna kill you" and built it up to be a thing..that he was actually gonna kill him. Yet nothing lmao. And I can't accept 'this isn't what Glenn would want' as an answer when Maggie doesn't raise this as a point in the TV show, and I highly doubt Abe would want Negan to live

Like I get that Rick's trying to 'honour' Carl (that's still such bull**** lmao how much time difference was there between 7x16 and Season 8?? Not a lot. Carl made the first shot in 7x16 and killed a few Saviors trying to get to Negan in 7a. And then in the first episode of Season 8 he develops some sorta pacifist mindset and it's like... what made him have that epiphany?

I'm not saying at all Rick shouldn't have listened to his son's ideas (which he still could've done by sparing the Saviors as he did) or honour them but to have him call the shots over Eugene and Rosita (who lost Abraham and no doubt were they affected by Sasha's death), Daryl (his best friend, an abuse survivor, who was tortured by the man), Maggie (who lost Sasha and most of all, obviously, Glenn) and the other who were under his rule

I personally believe he should've died but if he were to live why couldn't they have everyone discuss it and come to an agreement? They've set up for tension between Maggie/Daryl/Jesus and Rick/Michonne and I just don't believe that they wouldn't act on it within this timeskip they're doing (obviously it depends on how long it is but if they stick with two years... yeah I can't imagine them waiting out trying to plan against Rick to kill Negan. It's an understandable conflict yes but it's not gonna have a satisfying pay-off)
Like that's what I at least liked about Negan being allowed to live in the comics. In the TV show it's just Rick calling the shot and ignoring everything he said and the otherswho died so Negan could die. He should've at least acknowledged and honoured them

[Babayaro.]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...s-pure-filler/

Lol so true