[Tom]

Originally posted by ange7

???!! what? ... do you understand english? your doing the trash talking .....it's not a TYPE of theory. ffs .... I'll get the sock puppets out and explain it shall I? hehe

Basically, you talk a lot of crap (I know pot, kettle, black springs to mind but the difference is I can admit it) and sometimes you argue and have no idea what you're on about.

[NettoSuperstar!]

When?

[ange7]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
When?

this is what he does netto ...battle of attrition ...he keeps talking till the other person gets sick of him and then he thinks he's the "WINNER". He'll go on for hours... he's in a loop.

[Tom]

And you follow me around in circles

[30stone]

Who cares anymore.



This thread is half on the subject it started half not.

[Benjamin]

anyways after the rant and off the subject comments, what are people's opinions on this? Since we have a lot of new members it would be interesting to hear what they have to say about gay adoption.

[arista]

Originally posted by letmein
Gays don't choose to be gay, but morons choose to be morons.

This is one of the best words on this Manic thread.

[Fangz]

Yes, gay people should be allowed to adopt. My family fosters children who are in care for various reasons, and while I think fostering is a good thing in the short term, I have seen what being moved from foster-home to foster-home over several years does to children's psyche.

Most people who adopt want a child under two, with the same colour skin as them and with no disabilities, the other less "perfect" children are left trapped in the system until they get old enough to be booted out with no parents and no support to fall back on.

Anything that even slightly increases the number of suitable parents willing to take on the more challenging kids and give them a stable environment and better chance at life is wonderful.

People say "what about the kids having to deal with gay parents", well what about the kids who are institutionalized in children's homes, or get shifted to a new foster-family every few months/years?

These kids need stability, love and understanding, and will happily take it from gay people, bi people, transgendered people, because when you've been through what a lot of them have been through, those things are not important.

[Benjamin]

Originally posted by Fangz
Yes, gay people should be allowed to adopt. My family fosters children who are in care for various reasons, and while I think fostering is a good thing in the short term, I have seen what being moved from foster-home to foster-home over several years does to children's psyche.

Most people who adopt want a child under two, with the same colour skin as them and with no disabilities, the other less "perfect" children are left trapped in the system until they get old enough to be booted out with no parents and no support to fall back on.

Anything that even slightly increases the number of suitable parents willing to take on the more challenging kids and give them a stable environment and better chance at life is wonderful.

People say "what about the kids having to deal with gay parents", well what about the kids who are institutionalized in children's homes, or get shifted to a new foster-family every few months/years?

These kids need stability, love and understanding, and will happily take it from gay people, bi people, transgendered people, because when you've been through what a lot of them have been through, those things are not important.

[Patrick]

No it would be so awkward for the poor kid

[Princess]

Originally posted by pmccaff2009
No it would be so awkward for the poor kid

Yeah but so are a lot of other things. I think it's unfair that a pair of absolutely crap parents could have kids just because they can because they're a man and woman. And a couple who could be amazing parents simply can't because of biology and that some people are hung up about the kid not getting the best upbringing. Which is utter ****.

Every kid has awkward things,having a weird name,wearing the wrong clothes or whatever. Having parents who love you who happen to be the same sex wouldn't be any difference.

[BBUK4LYFE]

I don't think they should be the first choice.

I think a child should grow up with both a father and a mother figure.

If you can't find a heterosexual couple for the child, then the gay couples come in.

EDIT: If anyone finds what I said, to be offensive. I couldn't careless. Thats what I truly believe. I've noticed that people get attacked for their opinions on here at an extremely high rate.

[Lewis.]

I think that they should be allowed, but as BBUK4LYFE said, Hetrosexual couples should get priority. Thre are days when I need a womaly figure in my life and days when I need a Male figure in my life. If I had gay parents, then I would be missing out on the womanly figure and sometimes I wouldn't be able to cope. There are certain things I can only talk to my mum about, and vice versa with my dad. I think that if there are no hetrosexual parents willing, then it is perfectly okay for a gay couple to adopt the child, but I think that the child should be able to have 24/7 access to a manly figure, or a male figure if it is a female couple

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by LewisLeona
I think that they should be allowed, but as BBUK4LYFE said, Hetrosexual couples should get priority. Thre are days when I need a womaly figure in my life and days when I need a Male figure in my life. If I had gay parents, then I would be missing out on the womanly figure and sometimes I wouldn't be able to cope. There are certain things I can only talk to my mum about, and vice versa with my dad. I think that if there are no hetrosexual parents willing, then it is perfectly okay for a gay couple to adopt the child, but I think that the child should be able to have 24/7 access to a manly figure, or a male figure if it is a female couple

but you would be able to cope as that would be the norm for you. The only reason you think you would collapse without a female role model in your life is because you've had one.

[Lewis.]

Originally posted by MrGaryy

but you would be able to cope as that would be the norm for you. The only reason you think you would collapse without a female role model in your life is because you've had one.

Good point, didn't really think of that. Hmm. I suppose your right. They should do a documentary on it, having a teenager who is used to being with hetrosexual parents, move in with a gay couple for a couple of months and test your idea.

[MrGaryy]

I saw two sons of these two lesbians on some talk show, tho they weren't adopted, the mothers got sperm donors. The sons said they were perfectly happy and never much need for a male figure in my life and that their lives were just as stable if not more than some of their peer with a father and a mother.

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by LewisLeona
I think that they should be allowed, but as BBUK4LYFE said, Hetrosexual couples should get priority. Thre are days when I need a womaly figure in my life and days when I need a Male figure in my life. If I had gay parents, then I would be missing out on the womanly figure and sometimes I wouldn't be able to cope. There are certain things I can only talk to my mum about, and vice versa with my dad. I think that if there are no hetrosexual parents willing, then it is perfectly okay for a gay couple to adopt the child, but I think that the child should be able to have 24/7 access to a manly figure, or a male figure if it is a female couple

but there is other influencal figures a child can have not just parents while my situation isnt completely to this topic my daughter doesnt see her dad at all but she has a stong influence from my dad my grandad and my step bro they are a huge part of her life so she isnt without the male figure in her life

[BBUK4LYFE]

Originally posted by MrGaryy

but you would be able to cope as that would be the norm for you. The only reason you think you would collapse without a female role model in your life is because you've had one.

Not true.

I grew up without a father and it was hell for me.

There is just somethings my grandmother and mother couldn't help me with.

So your statement pretty much holds no truth to it.

I also had friends that grew up with the same problems, I had. Not having a father or mother figure around and they grew up with the same pain and suffering that I did.

Not having both a male and female figure to look up to is tough, beyond belief man.

Just tough.

[Benjamin]

I like seeing this debate. I wonder how some of the newer members feel about this?

[lostalex]

Should Black people be allowed to adopt?

Should Jews be allowed to adopt?

Should Gingers be allowed to adopt?

Should Catholics be allowed to adopt?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Should Black people be allowed to adopt?

Should Jews be allowed to adopt?

Should Gingers be allowed to adopt?

Should Catholics be allowed to adopt?

I think the people who disagree, do so because of the fact that the child will be lacking in either a father or a mother figure in the family so the examples you've given are not really comparable.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I think the people who disagree, do so because of the fact that the child will be lacking in either a father or a mother figure in the family so the examples you've given are not really comparable.

well legally that makes no sense, because plenty of str8 couples adopt kids even though both parents arn't in the home at all times.

Why are celebrities allowed to adopt kids then? considering they let their kids be raised by nannys.


And what does that mean a "mother" figure, or a "father" figure.

Would you rather have no mom and 2 gay dad's, or would you rather have 1 mom and 1 abusive alcoholic pedophile father that touched you in your sleep???

The vast majority of pedophilia crimes in britain is commited by heterosexual biological fathers against their own kids.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

well legally that makes no sense, because plenty of str8 couples adopt kids even though both parents arn't in the home at all times.

Why are celebrities allowed to adopt kids then? considering they let their kids by nannys.


And what does that mean a "mother" figure, or a "father" figure.

Would you rather have no mom and 2 gay dad's, or would you rather have 1 mom and 1 abusive alcoholic pedophile father that touched you in your sleep???

The vast majority of pedophilia crimes in britain is commited by heterosexual biological fathers against their own kids.

I'm not disagreeing with you at all and you can add to your list the number of single parents out there too but when they are adopting a child it is controllable, where as no one can control people having their own biological kids (unfortunate in some cases!!)

having said that I do think it is good for a child to have both a good male and female figure in their lives, I mean I look at my own son for example and see the relationship he has with his father which I couldn't give him but I give him something else that has father doesn't.

to answer your question about the celebs, I think that all boils down to money unfortunately.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Should Black people be allowed to adopt?

Should Jews be allowed to adopt?

Should Gingers be allowed to adopt?

Should Catholics be allowed to adopt?

Nope






























lol I joke

[lostalex]

If you actually look at the research, the most dangerous thing for a child to be around is a HETEROSEXUAL MALE.