[Miss Ivy Balls]

Most probably yes!

People get bullied regardless. Most people get bullied for being gay as it is.

As long as they're good parents.

It is so awkward to answer though.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Of course they should, the most important thing for a child to have is love, and gay couples are as free and able to give that as heterosexual couples, more so in some cases.

Shouldn't even be an argument in my opinion.

[lostalex]

You guys do realize the whole "it will be more difficult for them" was the same excuse given when society was asking the question should INTER_RACIAL marriage be allowed.

The same points you are making, about a sense of identity, and the hardships they will face, were used by RACISTS to argue against inter-racial marriage.

they "won't have any role-models" and they will "be confused" these are the same arguments made by racists against inter-racial marriage.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

You guys do realize the whole "it will be more difficult for them" was the same excuse given when society was asking the question should INTER_RACIAL marriage be allowed.

The same points you are making, about a sense of identity, and the hardships they will face, were used by RACISTS to argue against inter-racial marriage.

well, I'll be honest here if I had to pick a home for a child and choose between a decent, loving straight couple and an equally decent, loving gay couple then I would choose the straight couple, simply because I believe it is more ideal to have both a father and a mother figure in a childs life. However with the amount of children in the world, especially outside of Europe, that need good homes I don't believe it would ever come down to a straight choice like this.

[_Seth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's ridiculous to take away the chance of a child having a stable home and parental figures just because of the parent's sexuality. If someone has the resources, desire and skills to be a parent then there's no excuse to deny them. A stable home and permanent parental figures are better then a cycle of foster parents and homes.

This. End of.

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

if I had to pick a home for a child and choose between a decent, loving straight couple and an equally decent, loving gay couple then I would choose the straight couple, simply because I believe it is more ideal to have both a father and a mother figure in a childs life.

I also agree with this. May as well have both a mother and father figure if it's a choice between a straight and gay couple who are equally good parents, but when it comes to (the ratios of) sexuality and good parenting, the good parenting should always take priority.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Phlip

This. End of.


I also agree with this. May as well have both a mother and father figure if it's a choice between a straight and gay couple who are equally good parents, but when it comes to (the ratios of) sexuality and good parenting, the good parenting should always take priority.

absolutely and there are plenty of children out there needing this, I absolutely disagree that a child is better off in a foster home or an orphanage than to be placed with a loving and stable gay couple.

[Tom4784]

It's ridiculous to take away the chance of a child having a stable home and parental figures just because of the parent's sexuality. If someone has the resources, desire and skills to be a parent then there's no excuse to deny them. A stable home and permanent parental figures are better then a cycle of foster parents and homes.

[Ammi]

Totally yes there are gay couples who would make fantastic parents and should be given that opportunity - god look at some of the sh**e parents on Jeremy Kyle - much better to have great gay parents. Choose schools carefully if you can with strong bullying policies and where you know they will educate the children on this from primary school age, children are so accepting (its their parents that arn't) - you can't stop all bullying but you never can and your just as likely to get bullied with straight parents.

[Angus]

I am sure that if a child had a choice they would rather be brought up by a loving gay couple, than in a children's home or a series of foster homes. All kids just want to belong to someone and be part of a family. If a gay couple can offer a child a stable and loving home, what on earth is the problem?

[Lucy.]

Absoloutly, just because your born liking the same sex doesn't mean your not capable as a parent nor should they miss out on the opportunity, besides there's plenty of **** parents out there who are of both sexes so.

[BBfan46]

I think it's fine I mean you can't argue that it's that unfair on the kids because 'normal' parents can be awful at looking after their kids. I think that surrogate mothers are better we not get a gay couple to inseminate a lesbian woman with sperm and have a baby that way they have both a mother and father, I know things can't work out like that but it makes sense to me.

[BB_Eye]

This thread reminds me of BBUK4LIFE moaning about gays non-stop last year.

[Jords]

Not from a baby, as I think it should be up to the child if s/he would be okay being adopted by a gay/lesbian couple.

This is because I think its better for a child to be brought up within a normal environment. I.e. Having a 'mother' and 'father' role. Gay/lesbian parents may encourage other students at school to bully the adoptee, or the adoptee themself may feel uncomfortable, because well, it would be odd to say you have 2 mothers or 2 fathers. Obviously you could argue living in a foster care isnt a normal environment either but thats just how I feel about it, however if they wanted to a adopt somebody lets say 7+, where they have an understanding of sexuality and were fine with the situation, then yepp Id find that perfectly acceptable.

[cupid stunt]

nah its wrong, the poor kid would get bullied to **** at school

[Barbie]

I understand some want to adopt kids but from the kids point of view is it not better to have a male and female role model and a bit of dare i say it "normality" in their home life?
When i say normality i mean have a mum and a dad, they have been through care or whatever and schools tough as it is, let alone when you have 2 dads instead of a mum and a dad

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Barbie

I understand some want to adopt kids but from the kids point of view is it not better to have a male and female role model and a bit of dare i say it "normality" in their home life?
When i say normality i mean have a mum and a dad, they have been through care or whatever and schools tough as it is, let alone when you have 2 dads instead of a mum and a dad

The simple fact is that there are nowhere near enough potential adoptive parents, especially those willing to take on older children. To deprive a child of a loving, stable home because of the lack of a "normal" couple coming forward is cruel and shortsighted - all kids have a fundamental need to belong in a family and feel loved and cared for as individuals.

There are plenty of truly despicable, irresponsible, uncaring, and neglectful heterosexual parents out there doing a fine job of messing up their kids' lives, so that argument doesn't fly. Kids only have a hard time at school with bullies who have acquired the prejudices of their own, supposedly "normal", imperfect, heterosexual BIGOTED parents.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by angus58

The simple fact is that there are nowhere near enough potential adoptive parents, especially those willing to take on older children. To deprive a child of a loving, stable home because of the lack of a "normal" couple coming forward is cruel and shortsighted - all kids have a fundamental need to belong in a family and feel loved and cared for as individuals.

There are plenty of truly despicable, irresponsible, uncaring, and neglectful heterosexual parents out there doing a fine job of messing up their kids' lives, so that argument doesn't fly. Kids only have a hard time at school with bullies who have acquired the prejudices of their own, supposedly "normal", imperfect, heterosexual BIGOTED parents.

I agree, I have thought on this one a lot, for me as long as the careful checks are made initially as in all areas of adoption, as long as the child is happy and clearly being cared for and as long as follow up checks are done merely as a precaution as they should in all cases for a while then I cannot see any argument against allowing any format of couple to adopt a child if it is clear they can give them love and security.

The child's welfare must always be uppermost in the minds of the authorities but as long as that is met then of course, Children have a right to as good a life as can be provided for them and if that's with a gay couple who can do so, so be it. It would be more wrong to deny the Child that chance.

[bananarama]

Two mums or two dads is not a balanced gender upbringing bullying or not......A definite no...........

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by bananarama

Two mums or two dads is not a balanced gender upbringing bullying or not......A definite no...........

What about children from single parent families? They don't have a balanced gender upbringing, and most are fine for it.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bananarama

Two mums or two dads is not a balanced gender upbringing bullying or not......A definite no...........

Okay, shall we take children away from single parents homes too? Since that's not a gender balanced home either. These children will obviously be better off in care as they'll have LOTS of foster parents to look after them!

In case you missed it, I was being sarcastic. I don't think it's a valid excuse to deprive a child in care of a loving family enviroment because of gender. Straight couples aren't instantly perfect and neither are gay couples but both can be good parents if you give them a chance. I'd rather grow up with a permanent family rather then being shifted pillar to post in the foster care system.

Stability is more important then the gender of the parents and if ANY couple straight or gay can provide that and a loving home for a child then I see no reason not to.

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by Barbie

I understand some want to adopt kids but from the kids point of view is it not better to have a male and female role model and a bit of dare i say it "normality" in their home life?
When i say normality i mean have a mum and a dad, they have been through care or whatever and schools tough as it is, let alone when you have 2 dads instead of a mum and a dad

But Jesus had two dads.

[cub]

Originally Posted by Barbie

I understand some want to adopt kids but from the kids point of view is it not better to have a male and female role model and a bit of dare i say it "normality" in their home life?
When i say normality i mean have a mum and a dad, they have been through care or whatever and schools tough as it is, let alone when you have 2 dads instead of a mum and a dad

Why is it better?

There are lots of Widows bringing up small children alone? Is that not 'normality'?

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by cub

Why is it better?

There are lots of Widows bringing up small children alone? Is that not 'normality'?

Exactly what I was going to say.

[Locke.]

No. Simple as that.

[Patrick]

Personally if I were a kid that was adopted and grew up with two dads I'd hate it.

I suppose it's up to the kid.