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Crimson Dynamo · 12-01-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Physical location or not, that's why I mentioned it as an abstract concept, 'God' would have to have a start point just like everything else. That is if you believe in start points. Another theory is that when this universe contracts, it will once again expand into another big bang, only for the same thing to happen again. Who says the universe 'began'? It could be just on a constant loop.

I would say the Universe begat

BB_Eye · 12-01-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Physical location or not, that's why I mentioned it as an abstract concept, 'God' would have to have a start point just like everything else. That is if you believe in start points. Another theory is that when this universe contracts, it will once again expand into another big bang, only for the same thing to happen again. Who says the universe 'began'? It could be just on a constant loop.

It's funny really how Nietzsche was only playing devil's advocate (no pun intended) when he mentioned the doctrine of eternal recurrance. How the notion that man's ultimate fate is to relive his own life again and again forever should form a foundation of the values we create for ourselves. If the Big Crunch theory is true, then we may aswell make the most out of our lives, because we are only going to repeat it for all eternity.

Crimson Dynamo · 12-01-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BB_Eye

It's funny really how Nietzsche was only playing devil's advocate (no pun intended) when he mentioned the doctrine of eternal recurrance. How the notion that man's ultimate fate is to relive his own life again and again forever should form a foundation of the values we create for ourselves. If the Big Crunch theory is true, then we may aswell make the most out of our lives, because we are only going to repeat it for all eternity.

I intend not to be locked up that time

InOne · 12-01-2010, 05:26 PM

Do you think God was before LT?

Crimson Dynamo · 12-01-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

Do you think God was before LT?

that would depend on your take on what God is

InOne · 12-01-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

that would depend on your take on what God is

What is your take on it? Being theist and all...

Crimson Dynamo · 12-01-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

What is your take on it? Being theist and all...

I look at Genesis chapter one and have faith.

InOne · 12-01-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I look at Genesis chapter one and have faith.

Isn't saying it's God kind of the lazy way out? Not really thinking about it?

Crimson Dynamo · 12-01-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

Isn't saying it's God kind of the lazy way out? Not really thinking about it?

only if you dont think about it. genesis and indeed the Bible is no lazy alternative and neither is being a Christian. Both you and I will be dead by 2070 so we make our choices.

Stu · 12-01-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I look at Genesis chapter one and have faith.

You must be bursting with faith.

Crimson Dynamo · 12-01-2010, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

You must be bursting with faith.

my 2010 Jim Murray Whisky Bible has just arrived from Amazon! (van got stuck in the snow in the drive, they always do). So i am bursting with anticipation, that and a glass of Old Shooglie that i am drinking. Next will be a vintage Queen Anne 70 proof.

come on

NettoSuperstar! · 13-01-2010, 04:36 PM

A twinkle in gods eye

*mazedsalv** · 13-01-2010, 04:43 PM

This has always been the most difficult topic for me to EVER understand.

I mean, so we are saying before the big bang (if it is actually real), there was nothing in the world? How exactly would this make land, water, plants and animals...

and then evolution comes in... why are apes and monkeys still around if we are supposed to have evolved from them.

And then comes in the third one, God. Every living thing, or object... anything... must have been created. So how was God created?

Bind these 3 points together, and its impossible to find out.

So we have evolution, God creating the universe, and The Big Bang. Now, what happened when?

The universe couldnt just have been created just by a huge explosion... i always wonder, how weird is it to think, what was there before? Did we just have pitch black before the universe was created??

Tbh I think I actually believe my before human life.
I am POSITIVE this is not a dream, but i have a feeling of me walking around in pitch black with stars surrounding me and a light shining in my face. This NEVER HAPPENED IN REAL LIFE OR IN DREAM.... could have been my previous life... I have never forgotton that memory... and it creeps me out.

Crimson Dynamo · 13-01-2010, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

This has always been the most difficult topic for me to EVER understand.

I mean, so we are saying before the big bang (if it is actually real), there was nothing in the world? How exactly would this make land, water, plants and animals...

and then evolution comes in... why are apes and monkeys still around if we are supposed to have evolved from them.

And then comes in the third one, God. Every living thing, or object... anything... must have been created. So how was God created?

Bind these 3 points together, and its impossible to find out.

So we have evolution, God creating the universe, and The Big Bang. Now, what happened when?

The universe couldnt just have been created just by a huge explosion... i always wonder, how weird is it to think, what was there before? Did we just have pitch black before the universe was created??

Tbh I think I actually believe my before human life.
I am POSITIVE this is not a dream, but i have a feeling of me walking around in pitch black with stars surrounding me and a light shining in my face. This NEVER HAPPENED IN REAL LIFE OR IN DREAM.... could have been my previous life... I have never forgotton that memory... and it creeps me out.

and dont forget that every atom in your body is millions of years old and came from stars millions of light years away and ago.