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arista · 03-06-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i mean how hard is it anyway to get a shag?

tell a girl you love her, couple of glasses of Chardonnay, and away you go.

total cost £5

Times Are Hard.

fuzzluvver69 · 15-06-2010, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I don't see what the big deal with is really (unless someone is forced into it) I mean abortion is legal on the grounds of pro-choice and it being the womans own body and it's her choice etc., shouldn't the same apply to this?

I voted yes to the poll for many of the reasons already mentioned on the thread. Legalising would take the bulk of the prostitutes off the streets, see a drop in human trafficking, minimise current links with drugs, lower rates of violence etc.

Had to pick up on the above though to avoid spread of misinformation. There is a common misconception in the UK that abortion is legal - abortion is categorically NOT legal. Abortion is an illegal act, that is carried out in a manner similar to the laws of justifiable homicide. It is absolutely NOT a woman's choice to abort, as the permission of two medical practitioners is required, and they by law are only supposed to give permission for an abortion if they feel that the woman is likely to suffer either physical or mental harm as a result of following through with the pregnancy, or if the future child can be shown to likely have an impairment serious enough that it would have a very poor quality of life.

If two practitioners do NOT approve the action then an abortion would be an illegal act, it's just that it's become common practice similar to doctors prescribing various drugs at the drop of a hat to give permission because a woman says she wants to abort.

Now I'm not saying anything whatsoever about my own personal opinions in the above, actually I think abortion issues should be on a case by case basis, but that is in fact the legal position.

Shasown · 16-06-2010, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzluvver69

I voted yes to the poll for many of the reasons already mentioned on the thread. Legalising would take the bulk of the prostitutes off the streets, see a drop in human trafficking, minimise current links with drugs, lower rates of violence etc.

Had to pick up on the above though to avoid spread of misinformation. There is a common misconception in the UK that abortion is legal - abortion is categorically NOT legal. Abortion is an illegal act, that is carried out in a manner similar to the laws of justifiable homicide. It is absolutely NOT a woman's choice to abort, as the permission of two medical practitioners is required, and they by law are only supposed to give permission for an abortion if they feel that the woman is likely to suffer either physical or mental harm as a result of following through with the pregnancy, or if the future child can be shown to likely have an impairment serious enough that it would have a very poor quality of life.

If two practitioners do NOT approve the action then an abortion would be an illegal act, it's just that it's become common practice similar to doctors prescribing various drugs at the drop of a hat to give permission because a woman says she wants to abort.

Now I'm not saying anything whatsoever about my own personal opinions in the above, actually I think abortion issues should be on a case by case basis, but that is in fact the legal position.

Abortion is generally illegal except on certain grounds, its the interpretation of the grounds that allow so many abortions.

The two practitioner agreement is simply a rubber stamp job nowadays. Your GP referring you to a clinic is approval and the acceptance to carry out the abortion by the clinic is the second. Bearing in mind a doctors hands are pretty much tied in that if a doctor wont refer they have to direct the seeker to a doctor who will.

If someone goes directly to the clinic it is even less valid in that you will be interviewed by a doctor and the second doctor may be the practitioner prescribing the drugs. In some cases, it will simply be a rubber stamp from a second doctor involved with the clinic.

Spike · 03-06-2010, 12:56 PM

Yes. Defiantly. There is no good argument not to legalise them in my opinion

Vicky. · 03-06-2010, 01:04 PM

I really don't see the problem with it to be honest.

As long as people aren't forced into it obviously.

Stu · 03-06-2010, 01:14 PM

I wish we could see who voted no. I wonder what business is it of theirs who does what behind closed doors with consent.

ChristmasNeeve · 03-06-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Why - so you could harrass them - for having a different opinion to you!

I'd actually be interested to know what their reasons for voting no are too. Everyone who posted seems to think they should be legalized

Stu · 03-06-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Why - so you could harrass them - for having a different opinion to you!

Didn't you just harass me even though I didn't say a thing?

With all due respect, fuck off, you hypocritical bore.

Jack_ · 03-06-2010, 01:38 PM

What's the bets that WOMBAI voted no?

MojoNixon · 03-06-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

What's the bets that WOMBAI voted no?

my vote goes for setanta too

MojoNixon · 03-06-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

There you go - as usual - trying to force people into telling you their vote! And I fully expected you to say that - as I have said many times - totally predictable! Actually, not that I should have to tell you - but as I don't really care - I voted don't know! Happy! Going to give me a grilling now?

I don't know....something tells me that WOMBAI voted no....

MojoNixon · 03-06-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Well you clearly aren't the brightest spark then are you dear! You can check with admin if you like - I would think it would be clear to anyone, even you, if I voted no - I would say so!

So you did vote "no" i see.

MojoNixon · 03-06-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Idiot!

Yes you did, don't lie to us.

MojoNixon · 03-06-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Diversion tactics hey! It was probably you - just too scared to say so!

No i'm not, i did vote Yes, No & Dunno.

Jack_ · 03-06-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

There you go - as usual - trying to force people into telling you their vote! And I fully expected you to say that - as I have said many times - totally predictable! Actually, not that I should have to tell you - but as I don't really care - I voted don't know! Happy! Going to give me a grilling now?

I think I need a lie down.

Tom4784 · 03-06-2010, 01:39 PM

If you legalise it then you can put regulations and such in place to protect the people involved in it while as if it stays illegal people will be forced into it and such.