[stoney]

we all watch the prog for different reasons and like and dislike different people.

I do not find Shabby even slightly entertaining.
She ruins the show for the likes of me with her constant bickerring and division.The night she had her date with Caoimhe was the most entertaining night of the show with the jerry Springer stuff that hardly even featured in the HL due to their pretendy love affair
Evicting her would also create the most changes and give the biggest reaction from the house.
Altho, tbh, if I were to vote this week it would be for that horrid Caoimhe.
Them I might get a double bonus cos Shabby keeps threatenning to leave. She was even going on about walking with Caoimhe WHEN Caoimhe was evicted on friday but didnt think that she would be allowed to leave by the same door at eviction time. ( altho , tbh, I didnt believe a word of it)

[MrGaryy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Exactly.

The point I've been trying to make is that two storylines have already been destroyed, and if Shabby goes this week - that's basically the main one destroyed. And then we have next to nothing to watch. I just don't get it.

Every time someone leaves, that in itself creates new stories. Shabby;s absence would result in forcing Caoimhe to integrate more with the rest of the house and return to Ife, Caoimhe's absence will do wonders for Shabby as she'll be able to think straighter and not to mention that there are plenty of 'storylines' that are developing all the time. The Sunshine situation, Josie and JJ's romance, Mario's unrequited love, Ife drifting from her original clique, the housemates growing lack of trust for Dave and Ben, plus other things created by the tree and nominations and save and replace. One housemate does not have this profound effect you try and make out.

And quite frankly, at the end of the day, the bottom line is that the vast majority of people just do not like watching vapid, nasty people and people like Govan and Rachael do so so much more harm to the show than they do good.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by MrGaryy

Every time someone leaves, that in itself creates new stories. Shabby;s absence would result in forcing Caoimhe to integrate more with the rest of the house and return to Ife, Caoimhe's absence will do wonders for Shabby as she'll be able to think straighter and not to mention that there are plenty of 'storylines' that are developing all the time. The Sunshine situation, Josie and JJ's romance, Mario's unrequited love, Ife drifting from her original clique, the housemates growing lack of trust for Dave and Ben, plus other things created by the tree and nominations and save and replace. One housemate does not have this profound effect you try and make out.

And quite frankly, at the end of the day, the bottom line is that the vast majority of people just do not like watching vapid, nasty people and people like Govan and Rachael do so so much more harm to the show than they do good.

Whilst the first line is true, I don't want Caoimhe/Shabby to integrate themselves with the rest of the house, because that's boring. They'll inevitably end up getting along as one big group instead of their being two seperate groups, and the latter is obviously better - a divide = more confrontation = a better storyline. Ife does nothing regardless so her drifting from her original clique isn't something to shout about.

And whilst that is true - people should be voting logically. What people need to remember is we're not actually living with these 'nasty' people, but the housemates are. And these 'nasty' people will do a hell of a lot more for the development of storylines than the likes of Ife, Steve and Mario. It happens every year. People vote out these housemates, and a few weeks down the line complain it's boring, and it's their own fault. A boring show = low ratings = a factor contributing to Big Brother getting the axe.

I'm the exact opposite of people like Govan, Rachael and 'bitchy, nasty' people etc, but this isn't about me or what type of people I dislike. This is about an entertainment show. An entertainment show where the viewing public should endeavour to ensure that there's as many storylines as possible - and keeping these nasty, bitchy, confrontational housemates are important. As much as I hate to admit it, can you imagine what BB10 would've been like for the first few weeks without Lisa's group?

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by WildCat

No, we should scrap evictions altogether. THAT is the answer.

Lock the doors, walk away and watch something else!

[MrGaryy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Whilst the first line is true, I don't want Caoimhe/Shabby to integrate themselves with the rest of the house, because that's boring. They'll inevitably end up getting along as one big group instead of their being two seperate groups, and the latter is obviously better - a divide = more confrontation = a better storyline. Ife does nothing regardless so her drifting from her original clique isn't something to shout about.

And whilst that is true - people should be voting logically. What people need to remember is we're not actually living with these 'nasty' people, but the housemates are. And these 'nasty' people will do a hell of a lot more for the development of storylines than the likes of Ife, Steve and Mario. It happens every year. People vote out these housemates, and a few weeks down the line complain it's boring, and it's their own fault. A boring show = low ratings = a factor contributing to Big Brother getting the axe.

I'm the exact opposite of people like Govan, Rachael and 'bitchy, nasty' people etc, but this isn't about me or what type of people I dislike. This is about an entertainment show. An entertainment show where the viewing public should endeavour to ensure that there's as many storylines as possible - and keeping these nasty, bitchy, confrontational housemates are important. As much as I hate to admit it, can you imagine what BB10 would've been like for the first few weeks without Lisa's group?

but that's my entire point. You keep saying it's an entertainment show yet clearly most people do not find housemates like Rachael and Govan entertaining, they just make unpleasant, tedious viewing. A bitchy nasty housemate is only good for a week max, if they don't clean their act up it just gets dull. The only people who want a house full of these huge confrontational housemates are the hardcore fans, which is actually a very, very niche group and not one that should necessarily be catered for.

And on the matter of the house divide - it doesn't actually exist. It's just two girls segregating themselves from the rest of the group. Everyone else integrates. It's not a group divide.