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Jamietwo · 02-07-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

She has her moods? She went into something that I would only describe as a frenzy over that hat.

The other bit highlighted is an incredibly narrow minded comment. HM's like Dale were also barely understandable but I dont recall anyone talking about barely understandable English people.

she let of steam , mostly by her self, she wasn't attacking anyone, she also had nicotene withdrawl , and if it was her grandfathers hat i have sympathy for that, also maybe venting frustrations of unrequited love from that cornahomie girl, plus the hat really was her only look. I try not to be narrow minded, i beleive that hate is like swallowing pioson and expecting the other person to die...so for selfish reasons i try my best not to let the prejudice grow.

GiRTh · 02-07-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamietwo

she let of steam , mostly by her self, she wasn't attacking anyone, she also had nicotene withdrawl , and if it was her grandfathers hat i have sympathy for that, also maybe venting frustrations of unrequited love from that cornahomie girl, plus the hat really was her only look. I try not to be narrow minded, i beleive that hate is like swallowing pioson and expecting the other person to die...so for selfish reasons i try my best not to let the prejudice grow.

I like that analogy. Very true.

Jamietwo · 02-07-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

I like that analogy. Very true.

oh thanks, i might have that as my sig...someone else told me that one x

BB_Eye · 02-07-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamietwo

she let of steam , mostly by her self, she wasn't attacking anyone, she also had nicotene withdrawl , and if it was her grandfathers hat i have sympathy for that, also maybe venting frustrations of unrequited love from that cornahomie girl, plus the hat really was her only look. I try not to be narrow minded, i beleive that hate is like swallowing pioson and expecting the other person to die...so for selfish reasons i try my best not to let the prejudice grow.

As a smoker, I can safely say that nicotine withdrawal doesn't make you act like that. Maybe cold turkey from a heroin addiction, but that's not my area of expertise.

Jamietwo · 02-07-2010, 03:50 PM

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As a smoker, I can safely say that nicotine withdrawal doesn't make you act like that. Maybe cold turkey from a heroin addiction, but that's not my area of expertise.

I work with addiction and ciggarettes are one of the worst, withdrawing from heroine cold turkey is terrible but depending on how much you smoke ciggarettes can be one of the hardest of all the drugs (i'm not lecturing , i smoke too )

BB_Eye · 02-07-2010, 03:33 PM

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I don't think it is to do with skin colour but it sometimes does involve a certain area of black culture...i'm thinking of Alex, who was lets face it a nasty piece of work, but she was nasty in that sort of mouthy gansta/baby mama sort of way which kind of does involve her skin colour...so that could have brought up predjudice against a certain type of black, Victor was another one, although he was clearly a mummies boy at heart, the way he squared up to little emma waving a knife in her face could have triggered feelings about macho black gansta culture and knife crime. Charley was unpleasant but that was not really to do with any type of black culture, just a council estate bully. Science was a black supremacist and also quite irritiating in his own way. So i think skin colour does come into it at times with people of afro caribbean decent, but i don't think the public is racist as a whole. just my opinion. Shabby has her moods but she also communicates quite clearly and intelligently, maybe if she was a black who was using that aggressive and barely understandable language some of them use then yeah maybe that would have factored. Is it still racist if you hate a sub section of black culture? and does it matter? I just see what i see, no amount of political correctness or bleeding heart liberalism will change my opinion of what I think...memba i told you.

As great a housemate as Victor was, his game was up on the week he got evicted. He tried to humiliate Shell in the wedding task (which he had actually planned for a day beforehand) and his apology came across as very half-arsed and insincere.

Up until then things were actually looking quite good for him. Although I was more of a Lipgloss Bitches supporter, up until the wedding task, he never picked a battle with someone who couldn't give as good as good as they got. His association with Jason never did him any favours either.

vesavius · 02-07-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1

Would she have been out ages ago? I've noticed that instead of being disliked as she's such a scary should I say person. But it's like "she's a strong personality". That midget from last year was a Strong Personality, Charlie was, at least she stayed a while. This is just to name a few.

I'm not calling the voting public racist, I just want to know what you guys think of the matter, my prediction, you disagree

This topic is just a troll tbh.

Kate.. · 02-07-2010, 03:21 PM

I think if a black person acted the way shabby did then they would be persieved differently and people would dislike her more. Shabby gets called like a sulker and throws tantrums and if a black person did that i personally think people would see it as "dangerous" stupid, but true.

Peter Plunker · 02-07-2010, 03:29 PM

Some people could start an argument in a n empty room, I think the OP is one of those people. Race isn't even an issue.

LadyNay · 02-07-2010, 04:46 PM

I think what the OP is trying to say is that if it was a young black girl in there throwing her weight about & being moody for the majority, it wouldn't be taken kindly by BB or the public. Wereas Shabby fans think of her moodiness and loveable or entertaining - it's not threatening. BB does not help matters though, I think they like to stick to sterotypes when it comes to black HMs (and other 'groups') *most* of the time. I can't ever remember a black female in BB who wasn't bitchy, aggressive or slutty and a lot of effort must go into their choices.

It's a valid point, but nothing to be taken too seriously.

starry · 02-07-2010, 03:56 PM

But is Shabby as popular as you think anyway?

Bluerang1 · 02-07-2010, 04:33 PM

Of course people will try and make points against the truth. Anyway, the voting public has every right to save the English man as it is Their Country. Thread closed... if the Mods want them to be

flamingGalah! · 02-07-2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1

Of course people will try and make points against the truth. Anyway, the voting public has every right to save the English man as it is Their Country. Thread closed... if the Mods want them to be

"the truth" ? You mean your opinion, of course...

MojoNixon · 02-07-2010, 04:36 PM

Shabby would be out right now if she was black. Even i am "angry white man", i am not racist at all. Bluerang1 is right with this one.

LadyNay · 02-07-2010, 04:47 PM

I repeat, lets not take it too seriously

Simone. · 02-07-2010, 04:47 PM

You sound like my dad, he claimed England was racist because there was never a black winner on X Factor, then it was between Alex & JLS, there was my point proven.

Also Big Brother's the same, Brian Belo won

GiRTh · 02-07-2010, 04:51 PM

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You sound like my dad, he claimed England was racist because there was never a black winner on X Factor, then it was between Alex & JLS, there was my point proven.

Also Big Brother's the same, Brian Belo won

One black winner in 11 series is appalling but then again we've only had three female winners. Its telling us something but I'm not sure what.

Simone. · 02-07-2010, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

One black winner in 11 series is appalling but then again we've only had three female winners. Its telling us something but I'm not sure what.

I don't think the voting public is racist at all.
Personally I think they don't usually have likable black people in Big Brother, for whatever reason, also if you think of the amount of black people compared with the amount of white people then you're going to get more white winners, but it means to me that Big Brother doesn't represent black people well in any way, the only two likeable black people I can think of are Brain Bello and Alison Hammond.

flamingGalah! · 02-07-2010, 05:14 PM

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One black winner in 11 series is appalling but then again we've only had three female winners. Its telling us something but I'm not sure what.

It's not telling you anything at all...

People pick their favourite, be they black, white, male, female, gay, straight...

It really doesn't make a difference...

Hell we even had a Portuguese transexual win...

Quite why people have to over analyse things I don't know

GiRTh · 02-07-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

It's not telling you anything at all...

People pick their favourite, be they black, white, male, female, gay, straight...

It really doesn't make a difference...

Hell we even had a Portuguese transexual win...

Quite why people have to over analyse things I don't know

Of course it tells us something. It tells a great deal about the people who vote and what they look for in a HM. Its the same with X-factor. Young guys always go much further than they deserve to.

flamingGalah! · 02-07-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

Of course it tells us something. It tells a great deal about the people who vote and what they look for in a HM. Its the same with X-factor. Young guys always go much further than they deserve to.

But it doesn't say they are racist does it?

Vicky. · 02-07-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

It's not telling you anything at all...

People pick their favourite, be they black, white, male, female, gay, straight...

It really doesn't make a difference...

Hell we even had a Portuguese transexual win...

Quite why people have to over analyse things I don't know

Well said.

And as for shabby...week 1 she would have been toast, if rachael wasnt thrown into the limelight by john. Plus, the vote was pretty tight anyway.

Last week shabby wasnt even up....well she was, but won the task.

So oh my god she survived ONE eviction. Pretty sure she is gone tonight anyways.

And ages ago? How long do you think its been on for?!

GiRTh · 02-07-2010, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well said.

And as for shabby...week 1 she would have been toast, if rachael wasnt thrown into the limelight by john. Plus, the vote was pretty tight anyway.

Last week shabby wasnt even up....well she was, but won the task.

So oh my god she survived ONE eviction. Pretty sure she is gone tonight anyways.

And ages ago? How long do you think its been on for?!

LMAO
According to the odds Shabby' the rank outsider. She aint going anywhere.