[Jamietwo]

I don't think it is to do with skin colour but it sometimes does involve a certain area of black culture...i'm thinking of Alex, who was lets face it a nasty piece of work, but she was nasty in that sort of mouthy gansta/baby mama sort of way which kind of does involve her skin colour...so that could have brought up predjudice against a certain type of black, Victor was another one, although he was clearly a mummies boy at heart, the way he squared up to little emma waving a knife in her face could have triggered feelings about macho black gansta culture and knife crime. Charley was unpleasant but that was not really to do with any type of black culture, just a council estate bully. Science was a black supremacist and also quite irritiating in his own way. So i think skin colour does come into it at times with people of afro caribbean decent, but i don't think the public is racist as a whole. just my opinion. Shabby has her moods but she also communicates quite clearly and intelligently, maybe if she was a black who was using that aggressive and barely understandable language some of them use then yeah maybe that would have factored. Is it still racist if you hate a sub section of black culture? and does it matter? I just see what i see, no amount of political correctness or bleeding heart liberalism will change my opinion of what I think...memba i told you.

[amy-jaynee]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

I don't think it is to do with skin colour but it sometimes does involve a certain area of black culture...i'm thinking of Alex, who was lets face it a nasty piece of work, but she was nasty in that sort of mouthy gansta/baby mama sort of way which kind of does involve her skin colour...so that could have brought up predjudice against a certain type of black, Victor was another one, although he was clearly a mummies boy at heart, the way he squared up to little emma waving a knife in her face could have triggered feelings about macho black gansta culture and knife crime. Charley was unpleasant but that was not really to do with any type of black culture, just a council estate bully. Science was a black supremacist and also quite irritiating in his own way. So i think skin colour does come into it at times with people of afro caribbean decent, but i don't think the public is racist as a whole. just my opinion. Shabby has her moods but she also communicates quite clearly and intelligently, maybe if she was a black who was using that aggressive and barely understandable language some of them use then yeah maybe that would have factored. Is it still racist if you hate a sub section of black culture? and does it matter? I just see what i see, no amount of political correctness or bleeding heart liberalism will change my opinion of what I think...memba i told you.

"council estate bully" how very narrow minded.

[Jamietwo]

Originally Posted by amy-jaynee

"council estate bully" how very narrow minded.

well that is exactly what she was, amongst other things, did you not read the stories?

[amy-jaynee]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

well that is exactly what she was, amongst other things, did you not read the stories?

I misunderstood what you said, at first I thought you were saying as if everyone from council estates are like her, as I live on one, I'm nothing like her haha!
Im in no way defending her, dont get me wrong, she was the most horrid girl i can think of

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

I don't think it is to do with skin colour but it sometimes does involve a certain area of black culture...i'm thinking of Alex, who was lets face it a nasty piece of work, but she was nasty in that sort of mouthy gansta/baby mama sort of way which kind of does involve her skin colour...so that could have brought up predjudice against a certain type of black, Victor was another one, although he was clearly a mummies boy at heart, the way he squared up to little emma waving a knife in her face could have triggered feelings about macho black gansta culture and knife crime. Charley was unpleasant but that was not really to do with any type of black culture, just a council estate bully. Science was a black supremacist and also quite irritiating in his own way. So i think skin colour does come into it at times with people of afro caribbean decent, but i don't think the public is racist as a whole. just my opinion. Shabby has her moods but she also communicates quite clearly and intelligently, maybe if she was a black who was using that aggressive and barely understandable language some of them use then yeah maybe that would have factored. Is it still racist if you hate a sub section of black culture? and does it matter? I just see what i see, no amount of political correctness or bleeding heart liberalism will change my opinion of what I think...memba i told you.

She has her moods? She went into something that I would only describe as a frenzy over that hat.

The other bit highlighted is an incredibly narrow minded comment. HM's like Dale were also barely understandable but I dont recall anyone talking about barely understandable English people.

[Jamietwo]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

She has her moods? She went into something that I would only describe as a frenzy over that hat.

The other bit highlighted is an incredibly narrow minded comment. HM's like Dale were also barely understandable but I dont recall anyone talking about barely understandable English people.

she let of steam , mostly by her self, she wasn't attacking anyone, she also had nicotene withdrawl , and if it was her grandfathers hat i have sympathy for that, also maybe venting frustrations of unrequited love from that cornahomie girl, plus the hat really was her only look. I try not to be narrow minded, i beleive that hate is like swallowing pioson and expecting the other person to die...so for selfish reasons i try my best not to let the prejudice grow.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

she let of steam , mostly by her self, she wasn't attacking anyone, she also had nicotene withdrawl , and if it was her grandfathers hat i have sympathy for that, also maybe venting frustrations of unrequited love from that cornahomie girl, plus the hat really was her only look. I try not to be narrow minded, i beleive that hate is like swallowing pioson and expecting the other person to die...so for selfish reasons i try my best not to let the prejudice grow.

I like that analogy. Very true.

[Jamietwo]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I like that analogy. Very true.

oh thanks, i might have that as my sig...someone else told me that one x

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

she let of steam , mostly by her self, she wasn't attacking anyone, she also had nicotene withdrawl , and if it was her grandfathers hat i have sympathy for that, also maybe venting frustrations of unrequited love from that cornahomie girl, plus the hat really was her only look. I try not to be narrow minded, i beleive that hate is like swallowing pioson and expecting the other person to die...so for selfish reasons i try my best not to let the prejudice grow.

As a smoker, I can safely say that nicotine withdrawal doesn't make you act like that. Maybe cold turkey from a heroin addiction, but that's not my area of expertise.

[Jamietwo]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

As a smoker, I can safely say that nicotine withdrawal doesn't make you act like that. Maybe cold turkey from a heroin addiction, but that's not my area of expertise.

I work with addiction and ciggarettes are one of the worst, withdrawing from heroine cold turkey is terrible but depending on how much you smoke ciggarettes can be one of the hardest of all the drugs (i'm not lecturing , i smoke too )

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

I work with addiction and ciggarettes are one of the worst, withdrawing from heroine cold turkey is terrible but depending on how much you smoke ciggarettes can be one of the hardest of all the drugs (i'm not lecturing , i smoke too )

Don't get me wrong, withdrawal can be stressful, especially if you have your cigarettes suddenly taken away from you or you unexpectedly find out you have nothing to smoke, but nothing about Shabby's freak out was believable to me, as much fun as it was to watch.

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

I don't think it is to do with skin colour but it sometimes does involve a certain area of black culture...i'm thinking of Alex, who was lets face it a nasty piece of work, but she was nasty in that sort of mouthy gansta/baby mama sort of way which kind of does involve her skin colour...so that could have brought up predjudice against a certain type of black, Victor was another one, although he was clearly a mummies boy at heart, the way he squared up to little emma waving a knife in her face could have triggered feelings about macho black gansta culture and knife crime. Charley was unpleasant but that was not really to do with any type of black culture, just a council estate bully. Science was a black supremacist and also quite irritiating in his own way. So i think skin colour does come into it at times with people of afro caribbean decent, but i don't think the public is racist as a whole. just my opinion. Shabby has her moods but she also communicates quite clearly and intelligently, maybe if she was a black who was using that aggressive and barely understandable language some of them use then yeah maybe that would have factored. Is it still racist if you hate a sub section of black culture? and does it matter? I just see what i see, no amount of political correctness or bleeding heart liberalism will change my opinion of what I think...memba i told you.

As great a housemate as Victor was, his game was up on the week he got evicted. He tried to humiliate Shell in the wedding task (which he had actually planned for a day beforehand) and his apology came across as very half-arsed and insincere.

Up until then things were actually looking quite good for him. Although I was more of a Lipgloss Bitches supporter, up until the wedding task, he never picked a battle with someone who couldn't give as good as good as they got. His association with Jason never did him any favours either.