[Orvakki]

You people bore me.

[stoney]

yipee a new dave hate thread from another "new" poster

[truthseeker]

The truth must be told.

I have family living in wales and feelings are running pretty high. It is fine if you agree with everything that Dave does,and stands for we live in a free society and I respect yours and Daves views as far as going to India and taking advantage of vulnerable people. but that does not mean that I have to agree with you.

[Mac Hiavellian]

How on earth could he justify that?

[truthseeker]

It is a very very horrible thing to imagine that he is probably lying under the bed holding the bible (with one hand) as he is quoting his verses...YUK

[Kitten]

Originally Posted by truthseeker

It is a very very horrible thing to imagine that he is probably lying under the bed holding the bible (with one hand) as he is quoting his verses...YUK

Truth seeker, you come across abit perverted in all honesty. You've taken this way further than it needed to go.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by truthseeker

The truth must be told.

Who knows what is the truth? Dave is one one of thousands in the world who do the same type of thing. Amercia is stuffed full of them.

Many are fakers, many are deluded and some are doing it because they genuinely believe it.

I would say being on BB has done Dave's cause no good at all and has just exposed him and his cult to ridicule.

Perhaps it's a way of R. Lawd getting his own back.

[Peter Plunker]

He was taking the mickey out of an old tradition in some parts of the world where a family member would lie under the bed while the daughter consumated the marriage.
Don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant though.

[truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

He was taking the mickey out of an old tradition in some parts of the world where a family member would lie under the bed while the daughter consumated the marriage.
Don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant though.

No actually the religion that you talk of is, that the father is allowed and often encouraged to take his own daughters virginity before she goes to the marital bed.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by truthseeker

No actually the religion that you talk of is, that the father is allowed and often encouraged to take his own daughters virginity before she goes to the marital bed.

Come on then, which religion is this?

[truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Come on then, which religion is this?

fathers would stick their fingers covered in a cloth into their daughters' vaginas a few hours before their daughters' weddings and display the cloth before everyone to prove that she was a virgin. I heard that it was practiced among some people in the Middle East in the very old days, especially in the southern part of Egypt, Iraq, Iran and Morocco. I wasn't sure exactly who these people were, because Egypt has Muslims, Christians and Jews in it. The southern part certainly is mixed with all these religions.

[truthseeker]

Originally Posted by truthseeker

fathers would stick their fingers covered in a cloth into their daughters' vaginas a few hours before their daughters' weddings and display the cloth before everyone to prove that she was a virgin. I heard that it was practiced among some people in the Middle East in the very old days, especially in the southern part of Egypt, Iraq, Iran and Morocco. I wasn't sure exactly who these people were, because Egypt has Muslims, Christians and Jews in it. The southern part certainly is mixed with all these religions.

Which is probably what gave dave his sick ideas.

[Shasown]

Could be worse I suppose. He could have said he is also a local lord and will demand the right of the first night.

[BlackOrWhite]

How many times are people going to post that Dave in India video?

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by BlackOrWhite

How many times are people going to post that Dave in India video?

Right up to when Dave gets evicted on Friday........... I'm guessing.

[housemate]

I've noticed that in most (if not nearly all) anti-Dave threads, Daves supporters have a tendency to go way off topic .. entangling the discussions to such a degree that the real issue becomes 'fudged' and boring to follow.
I'm not accusing anybody... its just an observation.
This thread is a prime example .. its gone from a specific statement (joke or not) which Dave made, to the intricacies of where he would have got the 'material' or idea from .. isn't the issue whether he was right or wrong to say it in the first place?

[truthseeker]

Originally Posted by housemate

I've noticed that in most (if not nearly all) anti-Dave threads, Daves supporters have a tendency to go way off topic .. entangling the discussions to such a degree that the real issue becomes 'fudged' and boring to follow.
I'm not accusing anybody... its just an observation.
This thread is a prime example .. its gone from a specific statement (joke or not) which Dave made, to the intricacies of where he would have got the 'material' or idea from .. isn't the issue whether he was right or wrong to say it in the first place?

Correct.

Lets get back to the real meaning of the thread and that is, Only a pervert could say those things about his own daughter, end of.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by truthseeker

Correct.

Lets get back to the real meaning of the thread and that is, Only a pervert could say those things about his own daughter, end of.

Ahhh pervert now, is it.

truthseeker, you sound like an hysteric. I don't wish to listen to your silly witchhunt any more. Read my footer.

[truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Livia

Ahhh pervert now, is it.

truthseeker, you sound like an hysteric. I don't wish to listen to your silly witchhunt any more. Read my footer.

You are flattering yourself lol. I have never gone out of my way to speak to you, so there is no need for me to take note of your footer. And as far as trying to threaten people with accusations of spamming. tell that to the poor under aged children of India that I am trying to save. they can't speak for themselves because they are poor and impoverished, whose families have been paid a pittance to take part in this terrible spectacle which defies their human rights, and because they are unable to speak out for themselves, then I will do it for them.

[Part-timer]

Originally Posted by truthseeker

tell that to the poor under aged children of India that I am trying to save. they can't speak for themselves because they are poor and impoverished, whose families have been paid a pittance to take part in this terrible spectacle which defies their human rights, and because they are unable to speak out for themselves, then I will do it for them.

Lol, Gandhi couldn't get a look in.

I like you Truthseeker keep this stuff comming,its brilliant!

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by truthseeker

Correct.

Lets get back to the real meaning of the thread and that is, Only a pervert could say those things about his own daughter, end of.

Only pervert is you.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by housemate

I've noticed that in most (if not nearly all) anti-Dave threads, Daves supporters have a tendency to go way off topic .. entangling the discussions to such a degree that the real issue becomes 'fudged' and boring to follow.
I'm not accusing anybody... its just an observation.
This thread is a prime example .. its gone from a specific statement (joke or not) which Dave made, to the intricacies of where he would have got the 'material' or idea from .. isn't the issue whether he was right or wrong to say it in the first place?

Boring to follow? Don't you think it's interesting to hear all the other stuff that's posted? All the ideas and beliefs that people have? I've had some great discussions on here which have become organic and explored a subject to its roots. One of those conversations was with you.

He was probably wrong to say it in public, but you have to look at the context and how he meant it. Nothing is black and white, and there can never be yes/no answers for a question like this. In any case, wouldn't you find that dull?

[housemate]

Originally Posted by Livia

Boring to follow? Don't you think it's interesting to hear all the other stuff that's posted? All the ideas and beliefs that people have? I've had some great discussions on here which have become organic and explored a subject to its roots. One of those conversations was with you.

He was probably wrong to say it in public, but you have to look at the context and how he meant it. Nothing is black and white, and there can never be yes/no answers for a question like this. In any case, wouldn't you find that dull?

Hi Livia!!
Yes, I do love to explore things and very much enjoyed chatting with you recently .. you gave me a few things to mull over which was great.
The problem I have is that alot of these 'off topics' don't actually have much to do with the original issues raised.
The content of the 'off topic' today was uncomfortable reading, I realise that's just my 'problem' but added to that I didn't think it was even loosely connected to the ethics of making a disturbing remark (joke?) about his daughter.
In this instance, I think the context or how it was meant is irrelevant?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by housemate

Hi Livia!!
Yes, I do love to explore things and very much enjoyed chatting with you recently .. you gave me a few things to mull over which was great.
The problem I have is that alot of these 'off topics' don't actually have much to do with the original issues raised.
The content of the 'off topic' today was uncomfortable reading, I realise that's just my 'problem' but added to that I didn't think it was even loosely connected to the ethics of making a disturbing remark (joke?) about his daughter.
In this instance, I think the context or how it was meant is irrelevant?

If only we could all keep out mouth shut and never say anything stupid. If only I could do that! We all say stupid things and in Dave's case this was definitely a stupid thing and I don't think that deserves him being called a pervert. I don't agree with Dave's religious convictions as you know, but the shtick he gets on here amounts to hysteria in some cases.

[housemate]

Originally Posted by Livia

If only we could all keep out mouth shut and never say anything stupid. If only I could do that! We all say stupid things and in Dave's case this was definitely a stupid thing and I don't think that deserves him being called a pervert. I don't agree with Dave's religious convictions as you know, but the shtick he gets on here amounts to hysteria in some cases.

I agree that it doesn't make him a pervert but any fool knows that saying something like that is going way beyond the limit.
It may well have been a stupid moment for Dave but I have never once heard any of my friends or acquaintances (even at their most intoxicated, sober or attention-seeking) use their child ,in anything remotely as personal, as a subject for raising a laugh, .. Dave went way over the line.
I think that Dave deserves the feedback he gets to a degree, he seems to enjoy courting controversy, either that or he is a very slow learner.
I do agree that the flak thrown at Dave does go too far sometimes .. unfortunately he is leaving himself wide open for that type of thing every time he repeats these 'mistakes'.