[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I like Wagner, but this article has audio of him with it, FFS.

I know very well it could be a PR stunt [before someone brings it up], but somehow I doubt it is...

FFS to you too!!!! Cher has also had videos etc linked in some bad press,so,FO,and don't respond to me again.

[Braden]

The guy is such a douche!

The fact he thinks he's the dogs bollocks makes me hate him even more.

[setanta]

Right, if it's true then I don't give a crap what he's saying in private to a friend on the phone. That's his business. The End.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

how come the bit about the bread wasnt on the tape

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

zazanne stop defending wagner

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by simonsays

zazanne stop defending wagner

I'm not defending him,lol,I wish he had gone last week,I was just pointing out how people just seem to believe the stories as long as it's not about their fave

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by kazanne

FFS to you too!!!! Cher has also had videos etc linked in some bad press,so,FO,and don't respond to me again.

Where's these videos then? Any video of her supposedly 'bullying' that girl? Any videos of her throwing these 'strops' during rehearsals?

Come on, let's see these 'videos'...

Originally Posted by kazanne

I'm not defending him,lol,I wish he had gone last week,I was just pointing out how people just seem to believe the stories as long as it's not about their fave

That's quite hypocritical coming from you...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Where's these videos then? Any video of her supposedly 'bullying' that girl? Any videos of her throwing these 'strops' during rehearsals?

Come on, let's see these 'videos'...



That's quite hypocritical coming from you...

Look I don't want to be mean,but are you dense?it is quite clear we do not like each other( I have my reasons),so I have asked you NOT to respond to me,and I will do the same to you,so what is it you don't understand about that ?and as a last word to you there was a video on here of Cher saying she wrote some lyrics to a song,which she clearly didn't,but who cares anyway,as you only believe yourself! so toddle off and annoy someone else,I am ignoring you from now on.bye

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Look I don't want to be mean,but are you dense?

Nah, I think that's you, my love. Your standards of English tell me that

Originally Posted by kazanne

it is quite clear we do not like each other( I have my reasons),so I have asked you NOT to respond to me,and I will do the same to you,so what is it you don't understand about that ?

Nothing is hard to 'understand', dear, but since when do I have to listen to you? I'll reply to any post on this forum when I see fit, thanks, especially when I believe the post is stupid and needs questioning.

Originally Posted by kazanne

and as a last word to you there was a video on here of Cher saying she wrote some lyrics to a song,which she clearly didn't,but who cares anyway,as you only believe yourself! so toddle off and annoy someone else,I am ignoring you from now on.bye

None of that appeared in the press though, did it? And even if it did, the video was from one of the episodes of the X Factor, so it's not really a video of her 'bullying' anyone or throwing a 'strop' backstage, is it?

Talking of strops, that's a nice one you just threw there. You don't like it when someone challenges your posts, do you? Bless

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kazanne

I'm not defending him,lol,I wish he had gone last week,I was just pointing out how people just seem to believe the stories as long as it's not about their fave

yep, spot on!

[Niamh.]

so whoever he was speaking to taped him and sold it? What a wanker! I'm no fan of Wagner but what he says on a private telephone call is his own business tbf, Can one person here tell me that they never ,at some point in their lives complained about their boss/teacher/parents to friends in private?? It's just a bit of venting it's human and natural!!

[Zippy]

What is it with these deluded old assholes on the show?

All theyre doing is demonstrating exactly why they havent got far in the business after all these years; arrogance, delusion and a seriously bad attitude.

And if Wagner seriously believes he is any kind of worthy winner then he needs psychological help! He was put in for light relief...a comedy act. Thats all.

And if I went on Brazil Xfactor I'd expect the local acts to be favourites too. Its their country and obviously they would support their own first. Thats who they relate to most. You should be grateful you even got a place on it in the first place. Not that I think prejudice would have anything whatsoever to do with his lack of votes. He's just crap.

[Livia]

God, how can you all get so heated about a bunch of people you've seen on telly a couple of times. I mean, honestly... you'd think someone insulted your family or something, not a total stranger you're never, ever going to meet.

[MTVN]

So he had a bit of a rant in a private telephone call, so what?

Wagner

[Vicky.]

He said: "Simon Cowell can decide who he wants at number one. It is so double glazing, it is so block paving, it's all sales - it's bull****."

I think last year kinda proved this wasnt very true...


And what sort of a friend would do that? Seriously :/

[Z]

I haven't listened to the recording; but reading the quoted article in this thread, it seems to have been written back at the bootcamp/judges houses stage of the competition??

[ElProximo]

Two things to consider:

1. Wagner would not have gone anywhere if this was X-Factor Brazil. What is actually carrying him is his not-typically-British act and persona and culture.

2. Why isn't it a crime and scandal in its own right that someone was secretly recording private conversations without Wagners knowledge? Isn't that against the law to be doing that? It should be.