[Stu]

I just rather the TR2 levels. Venice had a great atmosphere, then you had the industrial offshore locations, the Maria Doria stuff, the monastery and so on.

Temple Of Xian was about as epic as a level gets.

[Grimnir]

hands up if you have asked girlfriend or wife to dress up as Lara Croft...

and what was the reply?!?!?

[_Seth]

Temple of Xian. That level was insane.

[Stu]

The generic thugs in the early games were fantastic. The character design was so bad but in a good way.

[_Seth]

^There was way too much shooting in TR2.

Originally Posted by Prezzie

I disagree, I think the pre legend games had very little story or character in them, It was the locations that was meant to shine instead of the story and characters. Lara didn't have much of a personality in the earlier games, She only got any depth in the Legend games when they gave her a motive and an actual character. They also provided a cast of characters I quite liked too, Amanda was a good character and I liked the changes to Natla.

You obviously haven't played Angel of Darkness. That has the deepest story to it, and lots of interesting characters. TR4 also has quite a deep story.

Lara did have personality, it's just that the games didn't revolve around HER. She was just the avatar for the game and what she always said would be short, sharp and to the point. At least she was a strong character back then - now that her biography, personality and looks have been altered COMPLETELY, making her unrecognisable to me, she just isn't the same character.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Frost Bite

^There was way too much shooting in TR2.

You obviously haven't played Angel of Darkness. That has the deepest story to it, and lots of interesting characters. TR4 also has quite a deep story.

Lara did have personality, it's just that the games didn't revolve around HER. She was just the avatar for the game and what she always said would be short, sharp and to the point. At least she was a strong character back then - now that her biography, personality and looks have been altered COMPLETELY, making her unrecognisable to me, she just isn't the same character.

I've played Revelations and part of AOD, the Legend games were better storywise though (and gameplay wise, time is not kind to the older Tomb Raider games). It fleshed out her character more, gave her a motive and a goal for what she does ETC.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

temple of xian

i the opera house level

[_Seth]

Originally Posted by scott

temple of xian

i the opera house level

Get it on PC.

[Tom4784]

I hated Home Sweet Home, that last grunt who just wouldn't die always gave me a headache.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

*waits for reveal*

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

[Niall]

^ WTF?! :l

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

thats out of the new game

[Niall]

What Tomb Raider?!

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by Blitzen

What Tomb Raider?!

they new one :L :S

[Tom4784]

I remember those being revealed, I wonder if they're going for a more Horror/thriller esque game? Those enemies suggest so. They remind me of the Black Isle levels on that one Tomb Raider game.

[_Seth]

Originally Posted by Prezzie

I remember those being revealed, I wonder if they're going for a more Horror/thriller esque game? Those enemies suggest so. They remind me of the Black Isle levels on that one Tomb Raider game.

TR Chronicles.

That picture was leaked last year. It's pretty old.

[Tom4784]

Square Enix has lifted the lid on its new vision for one of its biggest franchises, announcing Tomb Raider, an origins tale that goes back to the roots of Lara Croft.

A piece of artwork reveals a Lara that's markedly different to the one that's fronted the Tomb Raider games since 1995, looking much younger and much more ragged – thanks, no doubt, to the premise of the new game.



Promising to tell the story of Lara's very first adventure, Tomb Raider takes the heroine and strands her on a beach where she is 'on her own but not alone', with the emphasis said to be on survival.

"Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider," said developer Crystal Dynamic's Studio Head Darrell Gallagher. "This is an origins story that creates Lara Croft and takes her on a character defining journey like no other."

Lara's last big console outing was in Tomb Raider Underworld, though she's had a more diminutive outing in Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light, which was well received when it launched this year.

There's no word on platforms or release dates, but expect more details to filter through as Game Informer's first look begins to get properly dissected.

I'll be interested to see more about the gameplay. Sounds good though.

[Iceman]

Sounds good, I like that they're going back in this, sounds like a good plot.

[_Seth]

As an avid TR fan for over 12 years, I'm bitterly disgusted by all of this. I wish I could like it, but it infuriates me how they're changing everything.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Frost Bite

As an avid TR fan for over 12 years, I'm bitterly disgusted by all of this. I wish I could like it, but it infuriates me how they're changing everything.

Change is good, if things were kept as they were the series would have died at Angel of Darkness.

[_Seth]

Originally Posted by Prezzie

Change is good, if things were kept as they were the series would have died at Angel of Darkness.

AoD was extremely ambitions. Eidos royally ****ed with Core Design by forcing the game out before it was even done so that it would coincide with the film. AoD tried tonnes of new stuff without changing the core (no pun intended) elements of the series and Lara Croft, and it would have been an incredible game if Eidos gave them enough time.

Change is only good if the change is good.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Frost Bite

AoD was extremely ambitions. Eidos royally ****ed with Core Design by forcing the game out before it was even done so that it would coincide with the film. AoD tried tonnes of new stuff without changing the core (no pun intended) elements of the series and Lara Croft, and it would have been an incredible game if Eidos gave them enough time.

Change is only good if the change is good.

I think the changes have been good, the level design is miles better and although Underworld was buggy most of the legend trilogy had great upto date gameplay. There's been very few changes that haven't worked well I believe.

I think it's a bit too early to rubbish this game as well since we haven't even seen a single picture of gameplay yet.

[_Seth]

Originally Posted by Prezzie

I think the changes have been good, the level design is miles better and although Underworld was buggy most of the legend trilogy had great upto date gameplay. There's been very few changes that haven't worked well I believe.

I think it's a bit too early to rubbish this game as well since we haven't even seen a single picture of gameplay yet.

The gameplay in the trilogy is less good, IMO. She has tiny jumps, can ONLY grab edges that the developers want you to and the free climbing was less open-ended, unlike AoD where it was open-ended. In the first 6 TRs you could grab ANY ledge that looked grabbable etc.

I don't think it's too early. This TR is gonna be survival horror, rated 18+ so there's probably gonna be swearing. It's said that Lara's bio is gonna be re-written AGAIN, Lara looks completely different.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

she looks like a boy *_*